FireStone 423 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 One of the things I've been struggling with is this "how to" part of it, the possibility of training adults to look for recording devices. Which apparently is harder than it would seem, because Camp Winnebago had found a recording device in the trading post bathroom in the summer of 2021 and despite then starting to regularly search bathrooms, they clearly missed new devices being placed and used. So it sound like either devices are tricky to find or that the camp just gave up on their searches after a while. Because clearly this guy was able to resume recording and continued to do so in the exact same bathroom. I don't know what the answer is. But it seems like it's way too easy for this to happen, and we need some sort of plan to combat this moving forward. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, FireStone said: One of the things I've been struggling with is this "how to" part of it, the possibility of training adults to look for recording devices. Which apparently is harder than it would seem, because Camp Winnebago had found a recording device in the trading post bathroom in the summer of 2021 and despite then starting to regularly search bathrooms, they clearly missed new devices being placed and used. So it sound like either devices are tricky to find or that the camp just gave up on their searches after a while. Because clearly this guy was able to resume recording and continued to do so in the exact same bathroom. I don't know what the answer is. But it seems like it's way too easy for this to happen, and we need some sort of plan to combat this moving forward. I vote to bring back public hanging. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jcousino 70 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 that sick there are ads all over the internet for some very small system.($100 to 200) not sure how very much better they would get if you were willing to drop a few thousands. Sadly, kids were used. even at time they were unaware. not sure even with an active search (when hourly) a camp could protect itself fully. Sadly, more lawsuits again the camps (not sure their level of fault) john Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3672 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 "there are ads all over the internet for some very small system.($100 to 200) " Even less than that. "...a foreign exchange student and aspiring actress ...alleges that while staying in a West Virginia home and still a child she was surreptitiously recorded in the bathroom using a camera disguised as a clothes hook, which she says was purchased on Amazon. The man alleged to have been responsible is facing trial." Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67652317 Additionally, the victim is suing the seller Amazon and manufacturer "John Doe". There is some description of the Amazon process towards becoming an Amazon Prime item - Product Safety Team, Dangerous Goods Team, Amazon Fulfillment Centers,... https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wvsd.235914/gov.uscourts.wvsd.235914.10.0.pdf Amazon's failed dismissal attempt. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/west-virginia/wvsdce/3:2023cv00046/235914/24/ Link to post Share on other sites
yknot 1338 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RememberSchiff said: "there are ads all over the internet for some very small system.($100 to 200) " Even less than that. "...a foreign exchange student and aspiring actress ...alleges that while staying in a West Virginia home and still a child she was surreptitiously recorded in the bathroom using a camera disguised as a clothes hook, which she says was purchased on Amazon. The man alleged to have been responsible is facing trial." Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67652317 Additionally, the victim is suing the seller Amazon and manufacturer "John Doe". There is some description of the Amazon process towards becoming an Amazon Prime item - Product Safety Team, Dangerous Goods Team, Amazon Fulfillment Centers,... https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wvsd.235914/gov.uscourts.wvsd.235914.10.0.pdf Amazon's failed dismissal attempt. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/west-virginia/wvsdce/3:2023cv00046/235914/24/ There are two similar cases involving scouting within the past year in my area. In one case it was youth. Link to post Share on other sites
AwakeEnergyScouter 247 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Saw this today, adding it here in case this scanner tip is helpful to someone out there keeping scouts safe. Sounds like looking for lenses is the best way. Also makes sense in that you can't get rid of the lens no matter how small the electronics are. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/22/how-to-find-a-hidden-camera-in-a-hotel-room-or-house-we-tested-5-ways-.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3672 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 Jan 25, 2024: A former Boy Scout volunteer, David Lee Nelson, 41, of Redmond, Washington, admitted hiding two cameras in a S Bar F Scout Ranch bathroom in July of 2021. "Nelson hid the cameras in paper towel dispensers and positioned them so they would capture the interior of the bathroom, including a shower stall. One camera was discovered when a scout leader and scouts were cleaning out one of the restroom stalls. A search uncovered another camera, and leaders then called the St. Francois County Sheriff’s Department. Later in the day, a scout leader spotted Nelson holding his cell phone near the bathrooms. The St. Francois County Sheriff’s Department and the FBI investigated the case. Assistant U.S. Attorney Matthew Drake is prosecuting the case." Nelson is facing a "mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years in prison, followed by a term of supervised release of up to life". More details at source: https://www.tampafp.com/boy-scout-volunteer-from-washington-state-admits-hiding-cameras-in-missouri-camp-bathrooms/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now