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  • 5 years later...

I did not want to start a new thread so I figured I would tack this onto here. It would appear that Voyageurs Council no longer exists and was carved up to the other councils adjacent in Northern MN. 

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2 (?) counties of the UP were part of it. They were merged with Hiawatha district of Bay-Lakes before Hiawatha was transferred to Michigan Crossroads. It just seemed to make sense sense from a UP of Michigan completeness, but now it makes more sense. 

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14 minutes ago, Tron said:

Word on the internet is that Bucktail just had their charter revoked and they are being absorbed by Laurel Highlands. When I looked this one up I was confused as to how a council the size of a district (in my council) even existed in the first place. 

Greenwich Council covers only just Greenwich, CT. Sometimes it comes down to the donors.

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23 hours ago, HashTagScouts said:

Greenwich Council covers only just Greenwich, CT. Sometimes it comes down to the donors.

Yeah I have nearby scoop on Greenwich, they use to have a lot of money but their endowment is almost drained now. I get how when they were getting pounded with donations in the millions of dollars how national just turned a blind eye to a council with like 1 troop and 1 pack. But now? They might be on the horizon for being absorbed; they're running without a CE. 

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18 hours ago, Tron said:

Yeah I have nearby scoop on Greenwich, they use to have a lot of money but their endowment is almost drained now. I get how when they were getting pounded with donations in the millions of dollars how national just turned a blind eye to a council with like 1 troop and 1 pack. But now? They might be on the horizon for being absorbed; they're running without a CE. 

Once upon a time, a member of Greenwich council told me that, since the endowment was so large, and (somehow) unencumbered by national, that the Board in this council could choose their CE without input from National... and did.

When threatened with charter removal, the response to National was something like, "Fine, we'll take our multi-million dollar endowment and choose another program for our youth."  So National left them alone.

Could not verify this was true, though... Can anyone out there confirm that?

 

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4 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

Once upon a time, a member of Greenwich council told me that, since the endowment was so large, and (somehow) unencumbered by national, that the Board in this council could choose their CE without input from National... and did.

When threatened with charter removal, the response to National was something like, "Fine, we'll take our multi-million dollar endowment and choose another program for our youth."  So National left them alone.

Could not verify this was true, though... Can anyone out there confirm that?

 

I have never asked anyone from that Council, but I did talk with an old timer from NY several years ago and they came up in conversation. The longstanding rumor is that they told National many years ago- like, when they were still headquartered in NYC- that they would never agree to change any of the charter agreement language, so that what you stated would remain the case as it had been going back to 1912, that Council was in charge of hiring their own staff. Camp Seton is also believed to be legally owned by the Greenwich Council corporate entity, and Greenwich Council "threatens" National that they will never agree to transfer ownership of it if National tried to take away their charter.  250 acres in Greenwich CT is worth a pretty penny in todays real estate market I'm sure.  This all as I say rumor, would be interested if it is accurate. 

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