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19 hours ago, qwazse said:

Even in winter, I keep my gloves in my pocket until my fingers are too cold to work without them.

That's why you want to wash dishes in cold weather - use hot water.

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On 12/22/2018 at 6:19 AM, qwazse said:

... assuming you have open field and can see everyone ...

My experience is it's better to NOT see everyone.  IMHO, the patrol system is much harder when you can see each even if you are hundreds of feet apart.  Some local camps are perfectly setup to have small patrol sized sites 100' to 200' feet apart, but the trees and bushes fully obscure each site from the others.  You have to trust your scouts more, but it really works out better. 

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35 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

My experience is it's better to NOT see everyone.  IMHO, the patrol system is much harder when you can see each even if you are hundreds of feet apart.  Some local camps are perfectly setup to have small patrol sized sites 100' to 200' feet apart, but the trees and bushes fully obscure each site from the others.  You have to trust your scouts more, but it really works out better. 

What? You don't hew to scouts should be seen and not heard? ;)

I guess it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If your goal is to train adults (and maybe your SPL) to take a step back, and possibly to get patrol sites  looking sharp throughout the day, being in view helps. If your goal is to get patrols to feel a little more private, then woodland are ideal. In some of our laurel thickets and hemlock stands, 50' is an eternity.

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