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In an email today to DOI employees, Zinke had the following statement:

 

"I approach this job in the same way that Boy Scouts taught me so long ago: leave the campsite in better condition than I found it."

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In an email today to DOI employees, Zinke had the following statement:

 

"I approach this job in the same way that Boy Scouts taught me so long ago: leave the campsite in better condition than I found it."

 

Well, given his current job and the issue of public lands, one can only hope that his Scouting experience ended before the councils started selling off their camps...

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President Donald Trump’s nominee for Ambassador to Japan, Bill Hagerty, is an Eagle Scout.

 

... told those at the Friends of Scouting 2017 Williamson County Good Scout Event that being Senior Patrol Leader of his scout troop in Gallatin 40 years ago helped develop his confidence as a leader.

 

Hagerty, 57, co-founder of Hagerty Peterson & Company, a private equity investment firm, and Eagle Scout, who served as Tennessee Commissioner of Economic Development from 2011-2014 and on the Trump transition, spoke At Embassy Suites Hotel Cool Springs about how the skills he learned in The Boy Scouts of America helped him in his life and business career.

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“I think the two points I made that Scouts teaches you leadership and confidence,†Hagerty said referencing his speech. “The leadership skills are all learned through the patrol method in Scouting.â€

 

The patrol method, which breaks the scouts in to smaller groups that work together within the troop with its own leadership structure, helped Hagerty have the confidence get his first job at 14 and was named senior patrol leader in his Gallatin, Tenn., Troop at 17 which went to the BSA National Jamboree in Washington D.C.

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“I think it’s the recognition of the investment that adult leaders placed in me as a boy,†said Hagerty who now works with his son’s troop. “It’s taken a lifetime to translate but I hope that the leadership abilities that I learned in Scouting as a boy will continue to guide me as I move on to Japan and try to represent our nation there to the best of my ability.â€

 

“I didn’t think about it at the time, but as I look back on it was because I understood how to be a leader, how to listen, how to organize my thoughts, how to set goals and how to execute them,†he said.

 

https://springhillhomepage.com/new-ambassador-to-japan-traces-leadership-skills-to-scouting/

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President Donald Trump’s nominee for Ambassador to Japan, Bill Hagerty, is an Eagle Scout.

 

... told those at the Friends of Scouting 2017 Williamson County Good Scout Event that being Senior Patrol Leader of his scout troop in Gallatin 40 years ago helped develop his confidence as a leader.

 

Hagerty, 57, co-founder of Hagerty Peterson & Company, a private equity investment firm, and Eagle Scout, who served as Tennessee Commissioner of Economic Development from 2011-2014 and on the Trump transition, spoke At Embassy Suites Hotel Cool Springs about how the skills he learned in The Boy Scouts of America helped him in his life and business career.

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“I think the two points I made that Scouts teaches you leadership and confidence,†Hagerty said referencing his speech. “The leadership skills are all learned through the patrol method in Scouting.â€

 

The patrol method, which breaks the scouts in to smaller groups that work together within the troop with its own leadership structure, helped Hagerty have the confidence get his first job at 14 and was named senior patrol leader in his Gallatin, Tenn., Troop at 17 which went to the BSA National Jamboree in Washington D.C.

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“I think it’s the recognition of the investment that adult leaders placed in me as a boy,†said Hagerty who now works with his son’s troop. “It’s taken a lifetime to translate but I hope that the leadership abilities that I learned in Scouting as a boy will continue to guide me as I move on to Japan and try to represent our nation there to the best of my ability.â€

 

“I didn’t think about it at the time, but as I look back on it was because I understood how to be a leader, how to listen, how to organize my thoughts, how to set goals and how to execute them,†he said.

 

https://springhillhomepage.com/new-ambassador-to-japan-traces-leadership-skills-to-scouting/

 

Update: 4/24/17:

Mr. Hagerty received the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award from the Middle Tennessee Council of the Boy Scouts of America. He is still awaiting Senate confirmation of his nomination of Ambassador to Japan.

 

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/williamson/2017/04/24/bill-hagerty-named-distinguished-eagle-scout-franklin-ceremony/100836538/

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I believe John Huntsman, Eagle Scout, former Governor of Utah and former Ambassador to China was named Trumps Ambassador to Russia. Saw a press release on that somewhere this week. 

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Rex Tillerson was fired before dawn this morning:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/politics/trump-tillerson-pompeo.html

"Foreign diplomats — starting with the British and the French — said Mr. Tillerson neither returned phone calls nor, with much advance warning, set up meetings with his counterparts. Strategic dialogues with many nations, including nuclear weapons powers like Pakistan, were ended without explanation."

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2 hours ago, hiker67 said:

Rex Tillerson was fired before dawn this morning:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/politics/trump-tillerson-pompeo.html

"Foreign diplomats — starting with the British and the French — said Mr. Tillerson neither returned phone calls nor, with much advance warning, set up meetings with his counterparts. Strategic dialogues with many nations, including nuclear weapons powers like Pakistan, were ended without explanation."

I do not know why Rex Tillerson did not return phone calls or abruptly ended dialogues with other nations.  But I think that if I had been him, I might be hesitant to say anything to diplomats from foreign nations, because I knew there was a high probability that whatever I said, the president I was working for would make a tweet, or an offhand remark at a campaign rally, that completely contradicted what I had just said.  I mean, a few months ago, when Tillerson suggested we should talk to the North Koreans, the president publicly undercut and ridiculed him, and said he was wasting his time.  Now the president says he will talk with the North Koreans.  (And then his aides suggest that he won't, so who knows.)

Apart from any other opinions I have about this president, I just don't see how anyone works for this guy.  (Well, actually, they don't, for very long.  I guess that's the point.)

I do not think that Rex Tillerson was necessarily the greatest Secretary of State in our nation's history, but we will never really know what he could have accomplished, because he was not permitted to do his job.  I doubt the next guy will either, or the guy after that, or the guy after that.

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What to tell our scouts?

When teaching citizenship, we often watch Mr Smith Goes to Washington with its positive message of participating and fighting for our principles. But  today, if there was a sequel would the message be reversed, Mr. Tillerson Expelled from Washington?

Will our scouts become more cynical of government service with the firing of Mr. Tillerson? I hope Mr. Tillerson speaks to American youth this week about government service, particularly under adverse circumstances.  Maybe he will come back to the BSA?

 

 

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22 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

What to tell our scouts?

When teaching citizenship, we often watch Mr Smith Goes to Washington with its positive message of participating and fighting for our principles. But  today, if there was a sequel would the message be reversed, Mr. Tillerson Expelled from Washington?

Will our scouts become more cynical of government service with the firing of Mr. Tillerson? I hope Mr. Tillerson speaks to American youth this week about government service, particularly under adverse circumstances.  Maybe he will come back to the BSA?

The scouts understand better than anybody that not everybody is cut out to be the SPL. The troop is real life scaled down to a boys size.

Barry

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16 minutes ago, Eagledad said:

The troop is real life scaled down to a boys size.

I don't know.  Most troops I know don't have nuclear weapons, not even tiny little ones.  :)

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4 hours ago, RememberSchiff said:

Will our scouts become more cynical of government service with the firing of Mr. Tillerson? I hope Mr. Tillerson speaks to American youth this week about government service, particularly under adverse circumstances.  Maybe he will come back to the BSA?

If Tillerson speaks to American youth, the youth should take him to task for not being courteous by not returning phone calls, etc.

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