Mike Barnhill Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hi all, What is the consensus of this group regarding first class requirement 9b? It states: b. Successfully complete the BSA swimmer test. Does this mean that the scout has to be a Blue swimmer as determined by someone able to administer the test? Does it mean simply complete the test and achieve any level (White, Red or Blue) Complete the test but fail it altogether? How has your troop interpreted this requirement? Thanks, Mr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 From the Guide to Safe Scouting: Swimmer Test The swimmer test demonstrates the minimum level of swimming ability required for safe deep-water swimming. The various components of the test evaluate the several skills essential to this minimum level of swimming ability: Jump feetfirst into water over the head in depth, level off, and begin swimming. Swim 75 yards in a strong manner using one or more of the following strokes: sidestroke, breaststroke, trudgen, or crawl; then swim 25 yards using an easy, resting backstroke. The 100 yards must be completed in one swim without stops and must include at least one sharp turn. After completing the swim, rest by floating. The test administrator must objectively evaluate the individual performance of the test, and in so doing should keep in mind the purpose of each test element. "Jump feetfirst into water over the head in depth, level off, and begin swimming... The swimmer must be able to make an abrupt entry into deep water and begin swimming without any aids. Walking in from shallow water, easing in from the edge or down a ladder, pushing off from side or bottom, or gaining forward momentum by diving do not satisfy this requirement. "...Swim 75 yards in a strong manner using one or more of the following strokes: sidestroke, breaststroke, trudgen, or crawl..." The swimmer must be able to cover distance with a strong, confident stroke. The 75 yards must not be the outer limit of the swimmer's ability; completion of the distance should give evidence of sufficient stamina to avoid undue risks. Dog-paddling and strokes repeatedly interrupted and restarted are not sufficient; underwater swimming is not permitted. The itemized strokes are inclusive. Any strong side or breaststroke or any strong overarm stroke (including the back crawl) is acceptable. "...swim 25 yards using an easy, resting backstroke..." The swimmer must indicate the ability to execute a restful, free-breathing backstroke that can be used to avoid exhaustion during swimming activity. This element of the test necessarily follows the more strenuous swimming activity to show that the swimmer is, in fact, able to use the backstroke as a relief from exertion. The change of stroke must be accomplished in deep water without any push-off or other aid. Any variation of the elementary may suffice if it clearly provides opportunity for the swimmer to rest and regain wind. "...The 100 yards must be swum continuously and include at least one sharp turn..." The total distance is to be covered without rest stops. The sharp turn simply demonstrates the swimmer's ability to reverse direction in deep water without assistance or push-off from side or bottom. "...After completing the swim, rest by floating." This critically important component of the test evaluates the swimmer's ability to maintain in the water indefinitely even though exhausted or otherwise unable to continue swimming. Treading water or swimming in place will further tire the swimmer and are therefore unacceptable. The duration of the float test is not significant, except that it must be long enough for the test administrator to determine that the swimmer is, in fact, resting and could likely continue to do so for a prolonged time. The drownproofing technique may be sufficient if clearly restful, but it is not preferred. If the test is completed except for the floating requirement, the swimmer may be retested on the floating only (after instruction) provided that the test administrator is confident that the swimmer can initiate the float when exhausted. Reference: Swimming and Lifesaving merit badge pamphlets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I have in my troop, a boy who has physical issues, including a rod in his back, who is only needing the BSA swim requirment to advance to first class..I have asked the parents to get a physican's recommendation (for a possible disability waiver) as to his future capabilities IRT swimming...what suggestions can you all give me on how to help this boy advance?? I'm not sure if the boy is capable of doing the alternate badges either, but he's a great kid..enthusiastic and trying his hardest to succeed! sue m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWScouter Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 The requirement does state, "Successfully complete." I interpret this to mean that the scout must pass the BSA swimmer test to complete the requirement. SWScouter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 The Scout must be classified as a swimmer, not beginner or learner. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 SueM: Alternative advancement requirements must be approved by your local Scout Executive. Medical documentation will be required, in most cases. There are lots of guys with disabilities who earn Eagle, so don't give up on this! Contact your District Advancement chair for more info on how to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleInKY Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 ditto Ed's and scoutldr's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 To Mike Barnhill, You need to read Advancement, BSA #33215, for the current calendar year!!! To your specific question, Scoutldr quoted the BSA Swim test. Complete the test. The operative word is "swimmer." Not beginner (red by buddy tag system), not non-swimmer (white by buddy tag system), SWIMMER. To Sue M the Beaver! Advancement #33215 has the procedure list in exquisite detail for a special needs Scout who has to replace swimming with a different physical activity. For an unofficial looksee at the list, see: http://www.meritbadge.com/adv/t21-alt.htm Short versions: The special need is "permanent." Parents, docs, council advancement committee, special needs professionals, and the Scout Exec work as a team to determine an appropriate substitute requirement within the capabilities of the youth concerned. YIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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