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I cannot seem to find my old guide, so this I am sure that there are more changes. But here is what I have found that is new so far. The centennial uniform. Camp Staff, new council level POR patch. Chairman is now Chair on troop, team, crew, pack, and district committee patches. Female venturers may wear the Girl Scout Gold Award medal on their uniform(not sure if this was in the old guide or not) Only boy scout troops and varsity teams wear the tan and green unit numbers.(I know that there is other material that contradicts this, including the color pictures in the insignia guide.) Arrowhead honor is worn between the commissioners POR patch and the council strip on the centennial uniform. If anyone finds any new information in the new guide please post it here.

Here is the BSAs search engine for local council high adventure opportunities. http://www.scouting.org/Applications/highadventuresearch.aspx (This message has been edited by click23)

mdsummer45, I am sorry that your son and your family is having to go through this. Several people have mentioned Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures guide book. I have an electronic copy, and below are a few sections that pertain to your situation, from the 2008 printing. "The requirement for advancement is that the Scout participates in a Scoutmaster conference, not that he passes the onference. When advancement is going to be deferred, the Scout should not come to the Scoutmaster conference thinking that everything is OK and then be surprised that his advancement is deferred. He should have had plenty of warning and guidance prior to the Scoutmaster conference. This is not a time to shut the door on advancement, but rather to work with the Scout to create goals that will allow him to succeed. However, even after a negative Scoutmaster conference for the ranks of Tenderfoot to Life, if the Scout desires a board of review, he should be granted his request." Pages 25-26 "When a Scout has completed all requirements for a rank advancement, including the Scoutmaster conference, he may not be denied a board of review" Page 30 "It is imperative that all requirements for the Eagle Scout rank except the board of review be completed prior to the candidates 18th birthday. When all requirements except the board of review for the rank of Eagle, including the service project and Scoutmaster conference, have been completed, an Eagle Scout Rank Application must be filled out and sent to the council service center promptly." Page 31 "There are two sets of circumstances in which a Scout or his parent(s) or guardian(s), acting on his behalf, may appeal a decision. The first situation occurs when a unit leader or unit committee does not recommend a Scout for a board of review, or refuses to sign the Eagle Scout application. In such cases, the Scout or his parent(s) or guardian(s) may appeal the decision to the committee responsible for advancement at the next level, as described below. The committee hearing the appeal shall then grant the Scout a board of review and appoint its members. In such cases, the committee hearing the appeal shall decide to grant or not to grant a board of review. --- All appeals, under any circumstances, shall initially be directed to the next highest level. If the decision leading to the appeal occurred at the unit level, the appeal shall be directed to the district committee responsible for advancement. If the decision leading to the appeal occurred at the district level (i.e., an Eagle Scout board of review convened by the district), the appeal shall be directed to the council committee responsible for advancement. A decision at either level finding in favor of the Scout shall be final. Units have no right of appeal of a decision. If the initial committee hearing the appeal does not find in favor of the Scout, he or his parent(s) or guardian(s) may appeal that decision to the next highest level. If the initial appeal was made at the district level, the next highest level is the council advancement committee. If the initial decision was made at the council level, or if the council advancement committee upheld the unfavorable finding of the district advancement committee, the Scout or his parent(s) or guardian(s) may appeal to the national Boy Scout Committee. All requests for appeal shall be made in writing, signed by the Scout and/or his parent(s) or guardian(s), and shall set forth in detail the reasons for requesting an appeal. Upon initial receipt of an appeal, the district and the council advancement committee charged with hearing the initial appeal shall provide for a prompt review to determine the facts. All parties must be interviewed or written statements obtained. Confrontations between opposing parties must be avoided. The appeal review is not a second board of review and thus a unanimous decision is not required. A decision may be reached by majority vote. A written report setting out all details of the appeal and the reasons for the committees decision shall be prepared and forwarded to the council Scout executive. A copy shall be furnished to the Scout bringing the appeal." Page 33 John-in-KC, I do not see anywhere that it mentions the CC signing for the SM, but it does mention that all appeals be "directed to the next highest level." (page 33). With that statement, I can see appealing a scoutmaster decision to the CC appropriate. (This message has been edited by click23)

If they make the contribution to the Pack would they still qualify? - No, only gifts to the Council Endowment Fund gifts count towards this award.

Here is the new manual in its entirety, http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34501.pdf Just a note this is almost an 8 MB file.

Here it is on ScoutStuff.org http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=UNIFORMS&c3=INSIGNIA&c4=&lv=3&item=33066 Notice the 2009-2010

As I said in an earlier post I had mine at my districts award banquet. Due to work commitments and and illnesses, only 2 members of my courses staff were able to attend, one is our district training chair. The CC of my course gave the speech and asked the district training chair and two other gentlemen he knew in the audience to make the presentation to the three of us. It just happened that the MC/entertainer for the night was my scoutmaster as a youth, and he was the one that presented me my beads.

Staffing the District Committee is back on the site. It now has a 20 minute timer, so no more not being able to finish it.

The new insginia guide is due to be in the warehouses on 3/23, and in your local scout shops a week or two after that according to my local scout shop manager.

The new commissioner manual, which I believe replaces Commissioner Administration of Unit Service, Commissioner Basic Training Manual, and Continuing Education for Commissioners, is due to be in the warehouses on 3/23, and in your local scout shops a week or two after that according to my local scout shop manager.

Just found two new e-Learning courses, Climb On Safely and Trek Safely. It also appears that Staffing the District Committee is no longer available.

I have seen pictures of an old position patch, Special National Field Scout Commissioner, http://mitchreis.com/images/realSNFSC.jpg . Does anyone know what these Special National Field Scout Commissioner did?

I did a quick search, and Provo is in the Utah National Parks Council, and then I went over to scoutstuff.org and found the patch, http://tinyurl.com/aulprb

I have seen it, but cannot find a picture of it right now. If I remember correctly it is much larger than the old recruiter strips, I would say it goes on the right pocket as a temporary patch.

I am rally excited about the third "focus" of the location search "opportunities for national leadership and outdoor skills training". I am near vol_scouter in Tennessee, and having a training center this close is going to be great.

Here is the volunteer chart http://www.seascout.org/for_leaders/organizational_structure/BSA_organization_chart.jpeg and here is the professional chart http://www.scoutingnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/new-bsa-org-chart-copy.jpg (This message has been edited by click23)

There is a new memo, 2/4/09 out on this reorganization http://www.seascout.org/for_leaders/organizational_structure/2009-02-04_Reorganization_memo.pdf

This is one of the results of the McKinsey report. You can find some more info here, http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=202418&p=1

This site, http://www.boyscouttrail.com/square-knots.asp, lists all of the current ones(as far as I can tell) with descriptions for each.

I will be receiving mine next Thursday at our districts leader award and eagle recognition banquet, along with two other of my patrol members.

Sorry I meant the father.

What position does he hold in your troop?

If he shows up for a meeting or activity every now and then, I would say let him stay on. He is either 16 or 17, and scouts shouldn't be the only thing in his life. But if the only time you see him is when he shows up for advancement, then it is time to have a talk with him. But if you just want him gone, so dad will be gone, I think you should talk to the CC and COR about dad. Here is how the BSA defines active: 1. Registered in his unit (registration fees are current) 2. Not dismissed from his unit for disciplinary reasons 3. Engaged by his unit leadership on a regular basis (informed of unit activities through Scoutmaster conference or personal contact, etc.) Every scoutmaster should have these" "Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures Pamphlet" http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=BOOKS_LIT&c3=LDRS_TRAINING&c4=&lv=3&item=33088 "Scoutmaster Handbook" http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=BOOKS_LIT&c3=BOYSCOUTS&c4=&lv=3&item=33009C and "Guide to Safe Scouting" http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=BOOKS_LIT&c3=PAMPHLETS&c4=&lv=3&item=34416A

http://www.scoutorama.com/ has a huge list of eagle project ideas.

Why would he try to circumvent the troop in this? "now the question is who is at falt the district for not checking or the scout for trying to go around the Troop? " I would say both, but since it is done, they really can't take it back "and is this grounds for not rechartering? " on your part or the council?