
1980Scouter
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Some are leaving poor councils and moving to ones that can withstand the lawsuits. If it is SOL laws or just resources.
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I agree 100%. The ship is sinking.
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Local council staff are leaving in record numbers. I have been watching multiple LC and I think the staff realizes the end may be near.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 3 - BSA's Toggle Plan
1980Scouter replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
So how did the court hearing go? Hopefully some progress. -
Some councils are being somewhat upfront with information concerning the costs associated with the lawsuits but most are not. Very interested to see what the TCC releases to LC this week concerning what assets they can keep/sell and how much they are expected to contribute to the settlement.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 3 - BSA's Toggle Plan
1980Scouter replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Agreed this is the only place to find out what is going on without reading thousands of pages of court documents. -
Also sell all council offices. Many are in desirable areas and will bring a good price. Work out of the council camps. Have a local retailer sell scout stuff and online. No need for dedicated scout stores outside of camps. Make the camps the center of everything.
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I think if they are able to save 3-4 camps per state spaced out evenly it will be fine. Try to make it a 2 1/2 hour drive at most. Today's roads are good allowing quick travel. Pick the best camps and do it.
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I think many people are leaving LC's as they see the future is not good for job security. A few councils in my area have many open positions but are not filling them due to all that is going on with BSA.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 3 - BSA's Toggle Plan
1980Scouter replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
So when is the next action in court going to happen on this case? I agree they need to move things along even if it means a bad outcome. Paying millions to attorneys to fight and make no progress is a waste of money that could go to the abuse victims. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 2 (after the big slow)
1980Scouter replied to T2Eagle's topic in Issues & Politics
If the lawsuit is just over National, would they still not go after HAB's? -
Might as well add Lake Erie Council, Camp Stigwandish to the list. It was sold last year for 1.6 million and I am sure all the proceeds will go to the lawsuit as they have 450+ claims. The sale was supposed to support two other council camps and program needs.
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I am wondering if LC's are starting to realize that they will have to contribute significantly to the settlement. Just viewing several area councils websites there is no mention of anything about the lawsuit other that the initial letter when BSA national filed for bankruptcy. I am interested if anyone has LC that is trying to raise funds and realizes they will have to pay.
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I am wondering if when national and lc's realize it is over they start giving BIG bonuses to all staff to effectively draw down their cash reserves to a low point. I would not put this past them.
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Good post on the TCC. I hope they secure adequate compensation for survivors and enhanced youth protection. In my eyes the BSA is done. I am am eagle scout and feel ashamed to be a part of this organization.
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I have been following this discussion and the news coverage very closely on this issue. I feel that the victims should be compensated fairly. $50-60,000 should be a minimum. If it takes total liquidation of the BSA so be it. The BSA has become more about high priced execs sitting behind a desk and less about kids doing scouting activities over the past few decades. It has been next to impossible to get camp maintenance done when the first priority is staff salaries. There are so many camps out there falling into disrepair when councils spend millions on staff salaries. Why do
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Is the BSA trying to "put itself to sleep"?
1980Scouter replied to Mrjeff's topic in Issues & Politics
My council just laid off or had leave 1/3 of their staff. Around 10 people.They sold a popular camp this year and are feeling the fallout from all that is going on in scouting and the country. The SE makes $165k and another employee over $100k. These salaries and number of employees are excessive. Scouting is not about 30 people working in an office building. There is a need for some employees but not near this many. They could have the best camps around if they put a fraction of these resources in to them. Actually the two camps left are nice but do need a lot of work. If scouting does not su