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  1. Call them and find out about their scholarships. https://www.nols.edu/en/resources/financial-aid-scholarships/ . The school is a non-profit. This course $245, about the same as a WB endeavor. Like many things, it' s a case of you get what you pay for, and if you do not have to call for Search and Rescue during scouting career it will have paid for itself on the first trip. BSA national has been in discussions with NOLS Risk Management Services, off and on, for the last 20 years about audits and consultations but never seems to get around to making a commitment.
  2. If you or your unit are going to take scouts into the backcountry, seriously consider taking this course: https://www.nols.edu/en/about/risk-services/training-courses/wilderness-risk-management-with-nols-and-rei/. This is the perfect compliment to a wilderness first aid course because it teaches how to avoid unnecessary risks beforehand as well as what to do after you've stabilized your patient. I'm a council IOLS Instructor, ASM, and a grad of WB, Powder Horn, and Kodiak. I'm also an Eagle Scout and former NOLS Senior Course Leader who taught this material for 13 years. This course is well suited for scouters and is better than any the BSA provides for this subject mater. You will not get this info at IOLS, WB, PTC, Powder Horn, Kodiak, Scouter U., or the National Camp School. PM me if you have questions.
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    El Rancho Cima Death March patch

    On ebay now, https://www.ebay.com/itm/BSA-LOT-5-EL-RANCHO-CIMA-CAMP-PATCHES-5OTH-HB25-DEATH-MARCH-LRC-ROCK-SHAC-TEXAS/202615084654?
  4. I bit the bullet and went out of council for a 5-day course, offered by National for the same reasons Miami Chief identified. I was well run and required less time than the local offerings. Do not underestimate the value of outside-council contacts. If you want to staff a local wood badge course this may not be the route take, as you'll have no personal history with the local WB junta … something often more valued than teaching skills or subject-matter expertise.
  5. Some folks in other patrols really struggled with identifying ticket items. Our troop guide made us come up with five ideas the first afternoon. We each of us put them on our own white board*, for our other patrol members to see, and comment on. This allowed for rapid development without angst. As individuals we brainstormed each others ticket items until everything was baked by Wednesday. We all thought about our items before arriving, so it was just a matter of mapping them a WB dogma. None of the 25 tickets items were the same. * we got to meet in a training room, with miles of whiteboards.
  6. I think the horn and axe display may have been left out due to weather, and not a formal decision. There was plenty of WB traditions and formality, but the focus was the learning and how to understand the moving parts inside and outside a unit. No patrol patches, no bead thingies for PLs, no stuffed animals, just patrol flags & yells, & Tr1 neckerchiefs. Some jokers took our patrol flag and hid it ...after their WB SM conference I believe they regretted doing it. My patrol got to laugh twice on that one. No talk of geeking out with fellow critters after the course, just how to be more effective scouters when we returned. The NYLT-youth lead the teamwork games at Camp Rocky Mountain, that each WB patrol participated in. The absence of camping as a patrol was not missed by anyone. Some patrols had enough friction without having to tent together. My patrol consisted of a disaster-response mgr (ASM), real estate consultant (SM), professional musician (DistCampChair), shipyard quality inspector (ACM), and a NASA flight controller for the ISS (CM). We skipped all the BS and went straight to "norming", got our stuff done efficiently, and had time plenty for laughs. As taught, the course was about the youth, not me.
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    Cub Leader who pays for Woodbadge

    I paid for it myself as an ACM with 18 months left in the Pack before my kid heads to boy scouts. I taught outdoor leadership at the Nat'l Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) for 13 years. I wanted to see what BSA was doing after being out of uniform for 40 years. My pack will be sending two senior leaders next year and paying for it. Both have 3+ years left in the pack. Both of them need to learn the big picture of contemporary scouting so they can effectively delivering the minutia at the unit level. For these folks its time to get a clue or return to den leading. We have 75 scouts and do about $16K in popcorn each year.
  8. I was there at the spring pilot course at Philmont, as a student. Here is what I recall: B & G + crossover at Lunch Day 1 I was told more topics taught by troop guide Ticket ideas due Day 2 EOD (9PM), Completed tickets turned in Day 3 EOD, Approved tickets returned Day 4. No other homework or late-nighters. Patrol Project was a 7-10 minute on what we got out the course. No PPTs. Day 5 in AM. It took us about 45 minutes to put it together taking and white boarding. Students politely challenged the lectures on occasions for the better. 5-hr outdoor segment run by local NYLT grads. Newton-car project replaced game of life. Nothing terribly stupid or silly. Did not overdue the patrol identity thing like you see from local wood badge grads. No Kudu horn blowing or axe-n-log displays. High caliber group of students and nat'l -level instructors Only brief movie clips to compliment presentations. No mention of folks having to retake the course...not a huge curriculum changes. Perhaps more info on evolution of teams and the leaderships styles best suited for various stages of development and situations. The program kind of assumed you knew about the history of scouting before, as well as the patrol method. One, patrol cooked dinner. Chow hall or sack meals rest of time. Slept indoors. Plenty of in-class patrol assignments & presentations. No artificially induced "stressing" events. Ton of valuable class participation by students. The five day straight, out of town, schedule worked the best for my work calendar. I was also strongly turned off by cliquish nature of my council's wood badge cult, and felt a higher-profile course had to be better than the local options. The added cost was well worth the valuable contacts and friendships I made at BSA-18-2.
  9. What Longhaired_Mac said. Our council runs a one-day Cub Shooting Sports Range Safety Offcier class good for BBs, Archery, and Slingshoot. No test, not much shooting, and a boring but mandatory curriculum. Training codes for class are: CS31, CS:32. Course usually occurs in June before Cub Day Camp starts up.
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    Old Scout Records

    The NESA database had my grandfathers Eagle record from 1947. His council had gone through three mergers since earning the award. Having a troop number expedites the search.
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    1960's uniform questions.

    Mystery solved. It's an adult five-year veteran patch, used from 1945 to 1953. This fits with the 1949 picture, above.
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    Gold Awardee reduces corporate plastic straw usage

    Starbucks and Marriot's is doing this also. https://www.npr.org/2018/07/18/630082148/marriott-follows-starbucks-in-dropping-plastic-straws
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    2019 World Jamboree

    I'm waiting to hear what my IST assignment will be. Hoping its not plumbing or sorting recycling.
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    Badge Magic is THE DEVIL!!!

    The goo-gone cleaning environment needs to really clean as the possible. I found the partially removed adhesive turns into an instant dirt magnet. I also found that applying it from the inside of the shirt to help loosen up the patch. The adhesive was scrapped off the shirt with a sharp plastic knife repeatedly between additional applications. The de-goo'd spot was then repeated, gently washed with Dawn dish detergent to remove the goo-gone resident. What a hassle, the and spot is never perfectly clean, as mentioned earlier. Now I locate the patches with only a little BM and then have a local seamstress sew them on.
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    As an adult, what do you REALLY wear?

    Since it is true confession time, I end up "profiling" other scouters I do not know by their uniforms, for better or worse. I suspect I'm not alone in this practice. I fully embrace the reality that the uniform police do little good for the movement. Here's a few examples: Incomplete or Incorrect, or both: Probably not the first person I'm going to for help, or trust with their answer. I have Den leaders in this category and it's no surprise when their scouts are unruly, ill-informed, behind on advancement, or drop out. A case of bad examples creating bad examples. Rebel/Statement Maker: Unauthorized/ political/social items on their uniform. I'm not really clear what scouting method is in use with these silly, esoteric additions. I just assume Bozo-in-a-Bozo-uniform. I do not care what this person privately believes, or how funny they think they are. I'd rather see one's individuality manifest itself in creative teaching and successful unit leadership. Complete & correct but over-adorned: Probably will trust their answer, assuming they have the time and patience to stop talking with the other square knot admirals in the room. Complete, correct, & simple: Probably involved in scouting for reasons other than themselves. Their information and demeanor often supersedes what their uniform communicates. I wear a full uniform with one knot and a name tag. I have met a few acceptations in each category.
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