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  1. Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted here, but I have a cool topic and I'd like to hear people's opinions regarding this. I want to make a very challenging and involved competition event to be held at a camporee. I'm looking for both creative and practical ideas, something that will really test a patrol's skills and teamwork. For example, the patrol must build a fire with wet wood and cook something. They'd be provided a small hatchet with which they could cut open a wet log and use the dry wood inside of the log. They can make what I think is called a "fuzzy stick" where the st
  2. Different lodges do things differently. Our lodge's fellowship weekends are held at our council's summer camp, and food is cooked and served in the dining hall. The entire camp usually is the lodge's for the weekend, and we do service projects for the camp at all events. At our lodge's service weekends, the projects are more numerous and of a greater scale; at fellowship weekends, the projects are smaller and can accomodate a few people or a lot of people [splitting wood, moving branches, etc]. There are cabins at our camp which can accomodate roughly 20 people each (and usually are enoug
  3. Is this parent a troop leader? If she (or he?) is, then I would suggest he go through some leadership training to know where his/her place is as an adult, to motivate the scout more positively in situations like these. Remember, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
  4. Sounds like a start, although I'm not quite sure if the BSA or GSA [Girl Scouts of America, I'm not sure if that's the full name of the organization of Girl Scouts] offer any recognition awards for people outside of scouting. The silver beaver award, the highest commendation the BSA awards, is given to anyone who performs great acts of service to youth, and the recipient does not have to be affilitated with scouting to receive it. I see your point though, that eagle scouts and gold scouts should try to create for themselves a great reputation for being top-notch citizens, to hold with the
  5. Hey here's a good idea for a thread: Many of us in these forums are VERRRY experienced scouts/scouters, and I'm sure all of us have a favorite personal scouting experience... What are your "TOP 3" most meaningful or memorable scouting experiences? Whether you want to briefly list them, or provide an explanation, it's up to you. This is meant to be one of those "charge your batteries" type threads, so feel free to whatever you want about your personal favorite scouting experiences. I'll start y'all off by listing my own top 3: 1. NOAC 2004 -- my first NOAC, but not my last...
  6. 9muckraker7

    OA ?????

    There are no lifetime or honorary memberships in the OA. [i believe this is stated in the OA handbook and the guide to officers and advisors]. To be a member, however, one must only go through the induction sequence one time. After that, he may retain [or reactivate?] his membership by paying dues to the lodge of the council to which he is currently registered.
  7. Interesting. I have another question... Would "soliciting funds" for the charter organization be prohibited?
  8. I recently read this on scouting.org, concerning hurricane katrina. "Although the BSA Charter and Bylaws do not allow for youth members to solicit funds for other organizations, there are many ways your Scouts can help in the relief efforts." So, is this saying that a patrol or unit cannot ask for funds to benefit the relief efforts (by donating to the red cross or salvation army) of a natural disaster???? I think that it would be very beneficial if boy scouts were to organize fundraisers for the organizations directly involved with the relief efforts. People will have a greater
  9. Try getting in touch with the national or regional office (officers?) for the OA. The names of vigil honor recipients and their given native american names are probably on file somewhere.
  10. The "crossing over ceremony" almost always involves the presentations of the arrows of light. This award, the highest award offered in Cub Scouting, marks the beginning of the Cub Scout's scouting 'career' [for lack of a better word]. This is the arrow of light: a light representing the spirit of scouting [or potential thereof] that shines in each of the recipients of this award. Now, the Order of the Arrow has a special place in these ceremonies. These are scouts who have kept this light shining, and who have shined their light outward to others, demonstrating in their daily lives the s
  11. I know the G2SS has a whole section on such limitations as working with chainsaws and motorized vehicles, among a variety of other things, but I'm seeking an answer that I wasn't able to find in the G2SS (although I really didn't read through the entire publication, just any applicable sections). Does the BSA have any limitations on youth scouts working on the roof of a building? Are there any height and/or roof 'slope' (maybe it's called the pitch?) limitations for youth members to be working on, if it's a BSA-related service project (such as an eagle project or perhaps just a troop related s
  12. I'm not really familiar with types of cloth, but I believe the sash cloth is two-ply cotton twill. I have no idea what this means, but I do know that it can be ironed, and even perhaps washed! I've washed mine several times with no problem, but I've heard horror stories of PINK SASHES when people try to wash them. Dry-cleaning would be the safest bet on this then, but a new sash isn't that hard to come by...
  13. Forgive me if this topic has been posted before (it seems awfully familiar but I couldn't find anything familiar here in these forums).... What does your lodge do to 'recruit' elangomats for the ordeal(s)? Is there any incentive that you use? Aside from simple recognition, my lodge offers a small pocket dangling patch for elangomats, but I think we need to do more. I'd like some ideas. Thanks.
  14. The Lodge Staff Advisor should be the one handling this situation...I'd suggest you talk to either the staff or lodge advisor, or both, regarding this topic.
  15. Hmm... I know a section chief cannot be lodge chief, but does this also restrict him from holding any other position of responsibility in the lodge? It might be possible to have the lodge chief [now section chief] to fill the position of vice chief of program. However, I am not certain that this is entirely legal... I would suggest having the new lodge chief appoint a vice chief of program, most likely selecting a worthy individual from the lodge executive committee. If the vice chief admin. does not want to fill the void, isn't there another person, such as a lodge committee chair, who
  16. Ahhh...what you just described was a PERFECT ORDEAL! I wish him only the best, and I encourage him to seal his membership as a brotherhood member in about 10 months or so.
  17. Usually it's the patrols who do the cheering, in the form of a patrol yell or cheer. I have yet to hear a troop cheer (however one troop did their own "troop rendition" of American Pie at one camporee a while back). At NOAC I remember hearing a couple lodges with their own cheers/chants. I guess the reason why there aren't too many troop cheers/yells is simply because the troop goes by the patrol method; the patrols would have their own cheers and yells.
  18. I had the urge to go off on a rant. If anyone agrees or disagrees, or if they have any words of wisdom, feel free to post! .............................................. There are several adults in my troop who aren't big fans of the OA, for one main reason: they feel that it pulls the scout away from the troop. These are the same "administrative troop committee members" who, without consulting the PLC, schedule and change troop event dates without taking into consideration OA events that same weekend. Several members of the PLC are extremely active in the OA, and they very much enjoy O
  19. Maybe someone can identify the 19xx ordeal ceremony found on that site...
  20. WHAT A GREAT WEBSITE! http://www.atryx.net/oa/ceremonies/
  21. Try inquiry.net That has always proven to be a good source of information. Here's a great site regarding firestarting and tinder: http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/m/mbennett/tinder_thoughts.html There's plenty of resources out there, and i hope you find the right one.
  22. "They fully comprehend the concepts of the OA (which are very similar to the concepts found in the Book of James) and do indeed, live a life that includes unselfish service to others." That's all that matters, and that's all that the OA asks of new members. I respect those scouts who do take the ordeal seriously and try to apply the ideals and lessons learned in their lives. Being of Ordeal membership in the OA does not call for involvement in the lodge, but rather to bring the lessons learned back to the arrowman's troop and/or daily life. The sad thing is that there still are many scout
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