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The host team is the Tiger Partner and Tiger Cub who will help you with the month's den meetings under the "Shared Leadership" concept of den meetings in the Tiger Cub program. Since there isn't an Assistant Den Leader in the Tigers, the shared leadership allows for each Tiger Team to get a taste of what's involved in leading the den meeting and hopefully inspire them to continue on as den leaders, assistant den leaders and active committee members within the Pack. Sometimes instead of having a team volunteer for a whole month, you can ease them into it by rotating on a meeting by meeting bas

I have not had this experience and can only speak from what I've read in the BSA literature. That said, I think that with a dedicated Webelos Leader and a good plan, both boys should be able to get through AOL by next spring, even if it means the Web II delays going to a Troop by a few months. I am basing this on the ability to reasonably complete an activity badge a month in order to meet the 8 badge requirement for the AOL. If the ability to get to a Webelos Resident Camp still exists in your council (many have already closed registration) it is possible that he can be much farther

Ir would appear that the Veteran Unit Insignia is not related to military service, but rather to the number of years the unit has been chartered. Here is the link to the ScoutStuff.org listing - http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?ctlg=05NDC&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=FLAGS_RIBBONS&C3=UNITFLAGS&C4=&LV=3&item=111VUF It can be ordered in 5 year increments starting with 5 and going to 95. I can go to sleep now as I've learned many new things by surfing the site tonight. Thanks all. John Tiger Den Leader (for 3 more days, then Wolf) Pack 13

I own a Eureka! Apex 2 tent that I bought several years ago for CAP ground team outings. Now my son and I use it for our Cub Scout camping trips. We recently camped 2 weekends in a row thanks to a Pack Overnighter followed by a Council Cub/Adult camp. On the first trip my son and his friend were staying in our tent while I was in a borrowed tent next door. We had 4 storms roll through that evening and on into the wee hours of the night. I kept waiting to hear a little voice say "Dad, let's go home" but it never came. In fact, both boys didn't realize it rained hard after they went to

Ahh, the ubiquitous headspace and timing gage, the bane of all tank commanders, especially those that wore bars instead of chevrons....fun times, fun times. Amazing how much consternation two simple pieces of metal could cause! "Ummm, sir? You did check the headspace and timing before we ran TT VIII, didn't you?" "Uhhhh, yeah, pretty sure I did..." Back on topic, I too like Lisa's approach and hope that the Camp allows it. John Tiger Den Leader Pack 13 Potomac District Shenandoah Area Council

These sound like a great idea. As a veteran, I say go for it! John Tiger Den Leader Pack 13 Potomac District Shenandoah Area Council

Thanks Judy, I will continue to be involved as much as possible. I'm meeting them after work tomorrow at a Pottery By Me store, hopefully they won't be too far ahead of me by the time I get there! Then it's off to a Cub/Adult Weekend at Camp Rock Enon! Can't wait for that... John

It's on my gotta get list (2 copies - 1 for me and one for my son!) Didn't know about the web site, thanks. John Tiger Den Leader Pack 13 Potomac District Shenandoah Area Council

Infoscouter, Thanks for the kind words. I'm hoping we get to do this or other similar outdoor things again. I think she's been a little jealous of the time my son and I spend on CS stuff, so this was a good way to give her some special time and share things we both like. I did take her to the Pack fishing derby and she enjoyed that as well, even though it was "her and the boys". She has always enjoyed fishing and now she has her own pole and doesn't have to share mine or her brother's. Soon, she'll be taking the fish off the hook herself. She has no qualms about putting on the

For those who are interested, Chapter 4 in the BSA publication 33212C, "Cub Scout Ceremnonies for Dens and Packs," 2005 printing, specifically deals with flag ceremonies to include indoor and outdoor posting, audience orientation and specific "commands". Having the quick cheat sheet on this at NCS last weekend would have helped with the den flag raisings and lowerings, but they all got through it without raising a flag upside down. Would it have looked better with a quick review? Yes, but the point I'm taking away from this discussion is that there is a ceremony outlined, I can find it,

Just got back from a nice 4 mile hike on the C&O Canal with my daughter's Junior Troop. We joined the towpath at the parking area below the Park Headquarters across the river from Shepherdstown, WV. It was a very good day for a hike, 62 degrees, mostly cloudy and low humidity. The girls wanted to try to balance on every fallen tree across the canal and did on one, but after that the Troop leader nixed any more attempts. The main group of girls shot out ahead of the adults. We stopped for lunch at Lock 40 and it was there that the difference between Cubs and Juniors really ma

I just got back from NCS Cub Scout Day Camp Administration training at Heritage Scout Reservation and on the first day of training this question came up during the discussion about the different ranks in Cub Scouting. It was obvious that the instructors hadn't seen the update or forgot about it if they weren't working directly with Tigers. A lively but brief discussion occurred and even some current Cub Masters and Den Leaders were confused. Fortunately everybody got the correct info and sequence and we were able to move on to other less contentious topics like shooting sports,

Do you attend the monthly roundtable meetings? As much as possible Do you even know what they are? Yes, but only because I read about them in the CSLB and asked my CM about them. Does your roundtable staff conduct good meetings? They are certainly not like the ones in the Roundtable guide from National and typically are combined with the Boy Scouts. The Cub RTC does try to make sure we get the Helps, Webelos Activity Badge and Belt Loops information for the next month, but it is a lecture/brief, not hands on. Are they worthwhile attending? Yes, but... As a new leader, I've

We went to a local radio station for our Go See It. It took several tries to find one that worked into our available times. Fortunately one of my Tiger parents knew the program manager and arranged the tour. The boys really enjoyed it as the broadcasting company actually has 3 stations in one building - an oldies FM station, an easy listening FM station and an AM sports/talk station. Each booth was manned - Delilah was on the easy listening station, so the program manager was able to spend a good hour with us. We got to see the sports station engineer coordinate a live HS basketball

Our Den meetings start at 7pm and our Pack meetings start at 6:30. I am the Tiger Den Leader and my son has an 8pm bedtime as well, except for Cub Scout nights (and camping trips 8^)) I try my best to end on time at 8 and get him home by 8:30. He is usually in bed by 8:45 and I'm downstairs getting dinner. I work an hour away and carpool, so for me getting home, me changed, him changed, grabing my stuff for the den meeting, loading it all up, and driving to the meeting place (10 minutes) so that I can be there at least 15 minutes early is a challenge. (My apologies to the English major

I remember SPAM and eggs for just about every breakfast, Dinty Moore stew, lots of tinfoil dinners, cans and cans of pork and beans and we even tried twist on a stick. As I recall that didn't work out so well. One of my first campouts, our leaders brought a couple of cases of C-rations and then spent much of the evening collecting the cigarette packets (I was in Royal Rangers and smoking was really frowned upon.) It was my first experience with C-rats and they seemed good at the time, I recall that I loved the pound cake and several of us tried to scam extras. The easy meal has alw

Hi cb2boys, I'm the Twilight Camp Director for our District this year and will be going to National Camp School at the end of April along with my DE and Camp Program Director so I'm just beginning all this stuff myself. However my DE did drop off two camp manuals from our 2002 and 2005 Twilight Camps and there is a 20 page staff/volunteer manual that I can turn into a pdf for you and e-mail it on Monday. PM me if you'd like it. It is interesting to see what needs to be included. I'm told that at NCS they will give us about two binders worth of stuff, so that should be fun.

Gotta tell ya, my son and I are members of Pack 13 and have enjoyed every minute of it. Nothing unlucky there. Same goes for our Troop. Rain on an overnighter isn't unlucky, it's a prerequisite! John

Hi Jaffolder, I'm up I81 from you in Pack 13. Last year we had a fishing derby, went to the BalloonFest at the Martinsburg Airshow - http://www.martinsburgairshow.com/, not sure if they're doing one this year, we had a pack overnighter at The Cove next to Camp Rock Enon and we did the Junior Ranger program at Harpers Ferry. This year we're looking at camping and hiking at Fort Frederick in Big Pool, MD. Check out the Mason-Dixon Council web site for a complete series of Cub Scout hiking trails (6 of them) including one at Antietam battlefield. We're also trying to get a good group

Mike, Thanks for the comparison. While I picked up the 2006 edition after starting with the 2005, I hadn't really checked much beyond the Tiger section to see the differences. This is very helpful. Hope you guys miss the freezing rain. John Collins Tiger Den Leader Pack 13 Potomac District Shenandoah Area Council

My Pack participated in our local Apple Harvest Parade (October) and the City Christmas Parade. We rode in the first one on a trailer pulled by a flatbed wrecker. It was only later that I read the G2SS and realized I was setting a bad example by sitting on the edge of the flatbed dangling my legs. Fortunately most of our boys were in the trailer and safely observing G2SS. The Christmas parade was a walker only because we did it at the last minute. But it was shorter than the Apple Harvest parade. We were a definite gaggle, but the boys enjoyed dodging the leftover foam from one of th

Just got back from RT. We had, including the CS RT commissioner, a total of 5 Cub Scout leaders present tonight. We sstarted with the DE giving announcements to the joint group (BS/CS) and then we broke out, but there have been other RT's that we haven't had enough to have a break out and so Scout Leaders sat through the Cub presentation and vice versa. The RTC did a good job tonight taking us through the Aloha Scouts theme and had some great suggestions for things to do with the boys. He talked about several belt loops and pins that would be appropriate for the theme as well and we di

What I've done so far with my own son and suggested to other Tiger Partners in my den is to place a repeated elective in the next line (or lines) of paws for the Tiger Track Beads. That way it's being counted towards a bead, but not abused as in having one or more beads for just one elective. I haven't had anyone yet (knock on wood) argue that they should be able to put it all on one line. But, if they did, that's okay becuase they are the Akela for their son and unless I've totally misunderstood the BSA guidance, I'm to take at face value what they are telling me. A gentle reminder of

Caught an episode this afternoon where he parachuted into the mountains and walked out. My kids were watching it first and I heard it from the other room. It peaked my interest and I wandered in to watch. They thought it was great (even eating the small snakes) until he caught the rabbit and started to skin it and cook it. My son (a Tiger) wanted to continue watching, his sister (a Junior Girl Scout) thought it was gross and switched the channel. I finished watching the episode on another TV and thought he made a bad decision to cross the mountain lake instead of either buildi

Generally in the middle of the campsite, never under overhanging trees and with a large bucket of water nearby in case.... John Who is originally from WNY but has spent much of his life south of the Mason-Dixon Line so as to know where "afar" is... 8^) Happy Holidays to all and a Happy New Year