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Lisa You never inferred about "My loins are taking over". I think many people have the view that "Well there going to do it anyway........ That is wrong!!! I also don't know why folks think that a trip to the Doctor for Suzy would make it all better and Johnny could still get his Eagle. That is the furthest thing from my mind. My point was that some folks regard that Eagle badge with such high value that I think that maybe it would give some cause to think of the penalty. I would not want the SM to have to ask. In my community everyone would know. Funny thing, is bef

Scoutldr thank you for speaking up about the EBOR. I thought John in KC was bats. It sure would tick off some folks. But it would also show a position on a subject. This behavior will not be tolerated. IT'S SIMPLY NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY INVOLVED, SHOULD I GAMBLE HERE AND LOSE! Just because movie stars and Tom Brady (QB NE PATS) think that fatherhood ends at conception doesn't mean we all have to drive down that road. And no I'm not advocating abortion. Banning Scouters? Now there's another topic! Lisabob wrote: Such a position reminds me of advice that was once commonl

Get that router fired up Gonzo and carve away!

What would you think of a national directive that said: Any boy fathering a child outside of wedlock would be permanently ineligible for advancement. Most religions don't support such behavior. Common sense tells us that kids do best with a loving Mom and Dad in an emotionally, financially stable home. This would be a little more direct than pg 376 of the Scout handbook. I think it is a national problem in that life is tough enough these days, the child born into such circumstances is the "victim", not a problem to be labeled. It is the two idiots that created the situa

Mostly we let people walk all over us and come and go whenever the hades they please

I agree with Kudu. I agree with OGE on certification and many times I have spoke of the ideal once a month training for Scoutmasters for a year. I don't agree with the OGE thing about the knots. Napolean said a soldier would risk much for a small bit of cloth(or something like that). They can tell others if you fell off the turnip truck yesterday or if you have been around awhile. (I feel a thread spin coming) There should be a knot for Den Chiefs. A year of service, training. Should be like the AOL, forever. Says you knew what service to others was like even as a boy. There h

Lisa wrote: Well now wait a moment, as SM don't you have the ability to decide whether or not this scout is demonstrating scout spirit? Who does determine this? Troop Committee? The absent lads parents? Please.

This is one of the fundamental problems with the program. Who did the Life Scout mentor whilst he was away? What leadership example did he show to the younger boys in the Troop during his absence? So now our Cowboy blows back into town for something HE wants. He will possible ask the yearlings and the 7th grade scouts for labor for his Eagle project. They barely even know him!!!!! WHY HASN'T HE MADE AN EFFORT TO ATTEND A CAR CAMPING CAMPOREE SEMI ANNUALLY? HAS HE SHOWN ANY SCOUT SPIRIT SITTING AROUND A FIRE WITH A YOUNGER SCOUT LEADING BY EXAMPLE, SHOWING THE WAY BY HI

Thank you for your quick response Kudu. If carried out properly and the boy leader left alone to lead, I can imagine no better leadership developement course for a boy in the age group we serve. I have displayed the small unit leadership methods the Marine Corps uses, businessman Harvey McKay has called it a mini MBA (or words to that effect) most all those can be applied to leading a patrol. I can name several people that make more than $500000/year that should have been Patrol leaders in their youth. They would have a lot more on the ball right now as adults. I wish th

Kudo wrote: I was referring to problems that a coed program would fix. OK, in a nutshell: 1) One "problem" that a coed program would fix is that American girls are short-changed because the GSUSA has few if any outdoor advancement requirements that are, you know, required. (CAPS ARE ONLY TO SHOW A STATEMENT AND ANSWER FORMAT) HOW CAN THE BOY SCOUT PROGRAM FIX THIS? YOU HAVE A VERY TRUE STATEMENT IN #2 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED YESTERDAY. MY SENIOR IN HS DAUGHTER, GOLD AWARD CANDIDATE, GS SINCE KINDERGARTEN, TOOK IT UPON HERSELF, OF COURSE WITH PARENTS PAYING THE B

Has he heard a loon call from a remote lake? Been scared on a COPE course and made it through while thinking under pressure? Backpacked another mile after thinking he just couldn't walk one more step? He can give first aid for a blister. Has he actually ever EARNED one? Paddled a canoe all day and enjoyed the fellowship of the group around a campfire? Has he portaged a canoe a mile and a quarter around the most beautiful rapids in the state? Caught a wild trout on a fly he tied? Has he broke a clay pigeon in search of the shotgunning merit badge? Been amazed

Hey C-bolt, How did the talk with the Scoutmaster go? Harvey Mackay, whom I greatly admire, and who could teach us all a thing our two no matter what out profession must read scouter.com. Check out his latest weekly advice. If you are a senior C-bolt, I suggest his book "Dig you well before you're thisty" (best $16.00 I've ever spent) If I could I would give it to every senior in high School I would. Harvey Mackay by Harvey Mackay Author Biography Download Hi-Res Image Harvey Mackay is the founder, chairman of the board and chief executive

Who hoo Whooooooooooo needs somebody to keep after them???? Make an appointment with yourself!!!! Next Thursday and Friday nights. The best word in the English language is FINISHED!!!! Just do It!!!!!! Job's isn't over 'till the paperwork is done. you can do it!!! Best wishes, Uz2bnowl

Do you really want "push-button Eagles"? Usually their parents are (fill in unscoutlike term here) I would try to interview the parents and the boys at the same time and then talk to the parents alone. Ask if they want more coddling or gradual steps to manhood. Any mother with a brain is going to want a strong self reliant young man. Ask the mom if she wants to curse her future daughter in law with a husband that can't think for himself. Ask the boy if he would like to be in a group that is led by the boys. In Cubs I had a Dad that admitted he never scrambled and cooked an egg

C-bolt, This thread has evolved from the original post. I think the thing you must do is get the senior Scouts together and confront the adult leadership. Maybe they will listen maybe not. If you present it in a gentlemanly fashion I would think they have to listen to you. Also know that they are probably tying to help you do your best. Perfect Leadership has been described as, "When all is said and done, the task accomplished, the people led by the perfect leader will say, "we did this ourselves" It doesn't seem you have this. For one more meeting before talking to

Well now, we are having a discussion..... Firstly when it comes to football, Tom Landry is the greatest man who ever graced the Gridiron. I don't come from Texas either. Mr. Landry had bearing. From what you have said here, it is time for you to "cowboy up" and get the leadership back in the hands of the boys. Work with you PLC and your senior Scouts and decide if you all wish to lead the Troop. You conduct the meeting. You conduct the activities. You plan the campouts. You hold the uniform inspection. Look at the title of the thread. YOU are a leader in your Troop. How

Thank you Dug, I need to learn to proofread. I wish I had your 23 yr old SM when I was a boy.

Wow, I hear the title Marine being bandied about like it's an STD or something. As a former member of the Union Street Marble Club I don't bark orders like a cable reality show tyrant. I have a couple of pet peeves: I don't like when someone is speaking and two Scouts in the crowd are talking. Especially when the speaker is an SPL trying to do his job. I don't like when the boys punch each other. Especially when one is smaller. I don't like that the ASPL wears brightly colored basketball shorts in February(at 8 degrees) with his uniform shirt(Troop wears uniforms first

Today I called John Howard with the NRA about the RSO cert. IF it comes....... Any NRA rifle instructor can take the RSO course by home study. Materials are like $20, recert is another $20 or so. Good news.

I'm with "y'all" The YMCA way doesn't make the boys plan. They are really not in charge of anything. What responsibilty do thay learn? They have a great program it's just different from Scouts. A 14 year old boy ought to be in charge of something. Heck they don't police themselves at that age they may as well be the quartermaster. Gives them an investment in the unit.

Scott thank you for explaining that. John I never meant to say the BSA and NRA were breaking their relationship. I'm only asking how the time is allotted. What did I type that gave you the idea they were ending their cooperation? I was a radio operator when I was in 10th Marines, not a part of a gun crew.

EK thank you for you kind words. I don't fear God either, he's great to me, my kids get fed every day and my toilet flushes what more does a man need? and I pray he blesses you also. I pray he finds a way to your heart. I hope she(Dee) was right there with me. There used to be somebody here that we wasted way too much of our collective breath on.

SHOOTING SPORTS (9) - Designed for shooting sports directors & rifle range officers of Cub Scout/Webelos Scout resident camps, Boy Scout/Varsity Scout resident camps & high adventure camps. This section includes archery & muzzle-loading rifle training, rifle & shotgun instructor training conducted & certified by a National Rifle Association instructor. Emphasis is on techniques for achieving the objectives of the Boy Scouts of America related to both Cub Scout/Webelos Scout resident camp & to Boy Scout/Varsity Scout resident camp. This is from the NE region Camp

SHOOTING SPORTS (9) - Designed for shooting sports directors & rifle range officers of Cub Scout/Webelos Scout resident camps, Boy Scout/Varsity Scout resident camps & high adventure camps. This section includes archery & muzzle-loading rifle training, rifle & shotgun instructor training conducted & certified by a National Rifle Association instructor. Emphasis is on techniques for achieving the objectives of the Boy Scouts of America related to both Cub Scout/Webelos Scout resident camp & to Boy Scout/Varsity Scout resident camp. This is from the NE region Camp

John our posts crossed as I broke for dinner with it half written. all you red legs have something in common-hearing loss. In 1981 I was in the only TAB Btry the Corps had. about that time all the smaller '05s got replaced with M198 155's which are amphibious as a fish. That's why the real king of the battlefield is Naval Gunfire. Your forefather Henry Knox dragged some smaller guns through my town on the way to Boston. Thank you for your service. And happy St. Barbara's Day.