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  1. Renax127

    Internet safety

    Of you know see picture of kid, in the newspaper, at high school sporting event with kids name, look in regular old phone book for address.
  2. My son has decided he's burned out. Too much paperwork, politics, classroom, rules, etc bs so he's done. We're going backpacking this weekend he'd like to have some other boys around but he's looking forward to getting outside and just hanging out
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    Tag You're It - Running a Camporee Your Way?

    All that sounds pretty good too me, but seriously sell Girl Scout cookies at a camporee?? I mean I like a tagalong as much as the next guy but come on. Speaking of Merit Badge fair, my son is just completely over them only took two for him to figure it out.
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    1st Class 4E Serve as your Patrols cook

    Oh my goodness this. Two scouts will do just fine on their own, unless there are adult requirements about what they have to use on a camping trip are enforced. And if they do run across something that needs more than two scouts to do, well asking for help is ok.
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    blown away

    Again, Scouts is not the military, so they do not wear covers they wear hats. So military rules on covers have no bearing, and if they did what eras rules should we follow. In the 90's Marines were not allowed to wear a cover anywhere indoors (unless under arms) now the rules are different. *Wanted to add this http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/clothing/style-tips/hat-etiquette/. Sure you could use this but the list of rules is frankly silly.
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    blown away

    Doff is a funny word
  7. So today I showed up at a cross over where some of the Webelos were joining our troop, along with some scouts, our CC and the guy that is currently our SM (on paper) I've been doing the job for a few months now and was officially supposed to take over in January. I've mentioned on here about a current ASM that's been there since the start and is sort of a pain and pretty anti-boy lead. Welp come to find out I am no longer going to be taking over as SM the ASM I mentioned decided he wanted to do it and the current SM, CC, COR have already signed off on it about 2 weeks ago. So I am feeling angry and more than a little hurt. I have been recruiting pretty hard, I've been introducing myself as SM, heck I did it yesterday in front of the CC and the ASM, I've also been leading and working with the boys under that assumption. Now it's going to look like I was a problem of some kind and they "removed" me from the position. Yeah I joined for my son and to help and I have honestly never card about recognition (I mean it's nice but ...) and I've done my best to stay out of the politics involved but I was looking forward to it, especially for the challenge. And whatever my problems are with the ASM I always thought he was a stand up guy. I don't know maybe I eel betrayed too. I'd like to think I would have handled it better if he had come to me first, I might not have but I would have liked the opportunity. I'm not sure what to do or what my role really should be moving forward. p.s. No I haven't told my son all of this just that I decided not to be SM. His future in the troop was in question prior to this so I'm not sure what he'll do now. So yeah this is all adult drama crap.
  8. Renax127

    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Well the universe tends toward entropy and rolling poop down hill is way easier.
  9. Renax127

    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Thanks but that's a little far south for me, I'm in Jacksonville
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Maybe I didn't make this clear, the current SM and CC were also telling people (including the DE) I was the new SM as late as two weeks ago, I jumped no gun.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Now that's the answer one is looking for, join up, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Not really looking for perfect, just looking for trying hard and acknowledging that it's a goal to strive for not something that can't be done. More than willing to help out however I can toward that goal, knowing it will never be reached not really gonna try to deal with intentional adult roadblocks anymore.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Oh yeah, we've looked A LOT he's tired of trying to find some place as well. Is there a patrol method boy led troop around, well I'm sure there is but both of us are tired of trying to find one.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Thanks but I'm in Florida. I admit I should have known something was up when none of them drank coffee I mean who does that.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Oh yeah they are trained all the required online ... uh stuff, Eagle, WB and OA. It's simply "the boys can't do it right" thinking on their part (what if they don't do X, etc) and an inability to deal with the chaos inherent in Boy led. Lots of but what if they do it wrong comments to me on Sunday. I am not an Eagle, I was a Scout and made it to Star. That said I rechartered my son, not sure he's going back but just in case, I did not. I looked in to BPSA before I think I might again. I also tried contacting our DE about finding a troop but honestly I did that before and it seems she doesn't know what boy led means either.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Well the decision has been made, I will not be rechartering and for now neither will my son. When I got home my son laid it out for me When he got home from school asked his mom "What happened yesterday? Dad was supposed to be SM and now (other guy) is" "No point in staying, he won' let us doing anything" To me at home "well I don't want to go back, I was just staying to help you change things anyway. I'll look for another troop but every one we've gone to hasn't been boy lead" "I'll join Ventures when I'm 14, I just want to hike and camp anyway" Thanks for all the advice and just letting me blow off steam today. This affected me way more than I thought it would, I was distracted by it all day.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Well I think the same way however lots of people don't and think it's better to be given something than earn it.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    My inability to just make a decision on this is mostly because I'm trying to figure out what lesson he'll learn. Do I stay to try and help to show quitting when it's hard is bad or do I leave to show sticking to what I believe is important. Far as what he knows, he's probably got some idea since I was talking to him about "when I start as Scoutmaster" what I'd expect of him on the way to the crossover yesterday and then when we got home, after a long discussion with the CC and SM, I wasn't going to be SM anymore. Crap raising kids is hard, why wasn't I warned.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Well I'd like to be the kind of person that could let it go and still be supportive and I try but I think it's important for me to accept that I probably can't do that and not alienate someone from scouting by not being able too.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Part of the discussion yesterday centered around my assertion that "a patrol is a patrol whether that's 2 scouts or 10" and that I expected the 2 scouts to camp as a patrol and not be put with some other patrol. They just could not accept that 2 scouts could do it on their own and pointed out all the other troops that don't do that either. They were thoroughly scandalized when I said "I don't really care what anyone else is doing, we should do it the right way" and insisted that yes I did need to care. They insist on dining fly's, Coleman stoves, etc on the camping trips, unless it's a backpacking trip which they've done 1 in the last 2 years mostly because I didn't let the adult "fix" the one we had scheduled. I am, and pretty much always was I guess, going to bow out of leadership. I don't see the point of it for me or for the continued success of the troop or the boys in it.
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    Friends of Scouting Mandatory?

    Man my kid can sell the crap out of camp cards, he doesn't even attempt to sell popcorn though.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    I think that's part of it, one of the things said was "well the boys have to have fun or they won't come back". Well of course its fun to get things without putting in any effort. I don't know that I want to stay around and see the little progress I've made with the new scouts in particular, destroyed.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    I have no intention of making a stink of any kind, I've seen the adult drama screw up too many troops/packs and ruin Scouting for families to do that. Anything I have to say will be to the involved parties alone. Part of me thinking about leaving is understanding that I might not be able to maintain that because of the way things were handled and mostly because of the person I am.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    The CC and SM were the ones that told me after the cross over yesterday, the reason they gave was the other guy decided he wanted the job now after not wanting it before. It was made clear they didn't like the idea of me trying to make it a patrol method, boy led troop. There might have been something else involved I don't know, heck maybe some parent complained that I was too rough/demanding on their kid, which I will admit I might have done.
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    Right now I'm leaning toward not re-chartering. I (along with every other leader) have been presenting myself as SM to everyone, even the DE, and now to suddenly have someone else announced tonight as the new SM with no explanation is just going to make me look like an ass. On top of it I was asked to take over as SM by the current SM and CC in March and I made it clear what I was going to do. I just don't feel like hanging around and dealing with whatever. If my son decides to drop scouts (I'm making him stay till April no matter what) then the two of us can just go backpacking/camping on our own for a little while with less hassle. He just turned 12 and has earned First Class so we can look for a Venturing crew in a couple years and he can still earn Eagle if he wants. He's just in Scouts for the camping anyway and he's frustrated with all the lame crap he has to deal with to get to the camping. I don't want to make this about me but no matter what I do my son sees that I'm not getting the job I've been doing for 6 months now for some unknown reason. He's a bright kid and will figure out something is up when the troop reverts back to the old way of doing things. I am so confused right now.
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