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Agreed, neither of us would. There is no precedent set I am aware anyway. I have seen projects approved here that would not have been approved ten years ago and vice versa. Projects that would were approved in other councils that would be turned down here and likley again vice versa. Experienced scouters have mostly understood this is the way of life and it may be or seem unfair. One umpire might call a way outside pitch a strike while another knew the strike zone. I had my first Eagle project turned down, so I regrouped and did something different (Plan B) even though other scouts had received approval for the same idea earlier from a differently constituted Advancement Committee. But today, this life lesson seems to be getting lost, well at least around here. I am sure Googling, social media, parenting styles are part culprits but I have not found relevant guidance in the program literature for the those claiming unfairness in this regard. I was looking for a statement such as the following but have not found it yet. I was hoping others might direct. Your project may be rejected even though the same or similar project may have been accepted earlier by your troop, beneficiary, or council or other troops, beneficiaries, and councils. Accept their feedback and try again.

Not every. "Honorary" doesn't bother me, production milled Eagles do.

If Eagle Scout Service Project X is approved by Council/District Advancement Committee A does that set a precedent for that council A? for all councils? I am seeing more "lawyering" when Eagle projects are proposed and less resistance by our Advancement Committee.

Read about an Eagle Scout project and that this scout would soon join an Eagle Fraternity that includes (Microsoft) Bill Gates. Another story mentioned that Indiana Jones a.k.a. Harrison Ford was an Eagle Scout. And John Glenn was many things, but like James Kirk he was never a Boy Scout. These are common misconceptions by the media and public but why not "fix" the problem in a "courteous" Win-Win way? Does the BSA bestow Honorary Scout? Honorary Eagle Scout? I know there is the Silver Buffalo award, but that is recognition of service to Scouting. Honor the mislabeled famous and honor those less famous citizens who act like scouts. Recognize the "Good Deeds" of others towards others. Let National honor the mislabeled and worthy famous and councils honor the local citizens. The Utah vice principal who took a CPR class (Be Prepared) and two days later saved a 9th grader whose heart stopped. The Gainesville,FL policemen who responded to a complaint of "loud" teens playing basketball by joining. If he wasn't a scout, he is now. Also award "Honorary Scout" to the unknown passerby who stopped to ... after all an unknown passerby helped an American businessman who was lost in the English fog . My $0.02,

Hopefully, this program will help raise 2017 Jamboree scout attendance.

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/n/2016/03/21/wvu-boy-scouts-team-up-to-develop-stem-program-at-summit-bechtel-reserve March 21,2016 ... An interdisciplinary team of researchers from West Virginia University will join with the Boy Scouts of America to establish an environmental science, technology, engineering, and math education and research program at Bechtel Summit Reserve near Oak Hill. The team from WVU’s Davis College of Agriculture, Natural Resources and Design and the Eberly College of Arts and Sciences will introduce scouts and their adult leaders to the environmental STEM field, particularly the aquatic sciences, while using the site as an ecology observatory and laboratory, said Paul Ziemkiewicz, director of the West Virginia Water Research Institute. ... Through the program, scouts will earn merit badges while learning about ecology, biology, water science, wildlife and wetlands. Scouts will receive hands-on training through taking measurements, entering data and plotting simple graphs to see the results. ... Federal funding of this project is provided through the U.S. Geological Survey’s section 104b program. The USGS awards 104b grants to State Water Research Institutes that have been established in each of the 50 states, three U.S. territories and the District of Columbia under the provisions of the Water Resources Research Act of 1984. The West Virginia Water Research Institute, a program of WVU’s National Research Center for Coal and Energy, serves as a statewide vehicle for performing research related to water issues. WVWRI is the premiere water research center in West Virginia and, within selected fields, an international leader.

Please don't single out 25-28 years old, as I have equal trouble with ALL ages though a long time ago it was only with those OVER 30.

It is funny the symbolism that develops over time. I read today a historian found the "meaning" of the Scout left-hand shake. Lord Baden Powell was left handed.

It is comical document. I wonder if Bears can **** in the woods? The "Outpost camping" that I know is a optional program feature at scout camp. A troop backpacks from its campsite to a more rustic site inside the camp (within "outpost") for overnight "camping". Before leaving, they draw food from the mess hall and cook dinner and breakfast before returning the next morning for the regular summer camp activities. Never encountered age restrictions. Could be a "patrol" outing at some camps if enough adults are avilable.

I like to think Irving did/does collect that data as not long ago they were stating 'statistically scouts who become First Class in the first year tend to stay in Scouting longer'. (I don't agree) Gumbymaster stated "I had always understood that a true goal of Scouting was to get the Scouts to 1st Class." I thought BSA literature states that this is the Scoutmaster's goal or has that changed?

Scouting magazine says there were 21,175 Eagles in 1960 and 29,103 in 1970. BSA membership ranged from 5.2 million to 6.3 million in that decade. So today, very roughly more than twice the Eagles with a third of overall membership (fuzzy numbers). Below is a graph from Scouting magazine. IMHO, we should have around 1-2% reach Eagle which was the range during the post WW1-WW2-Space Race era. I think we had a better program and Eagles then. Remember when Eagles could enter the armed forces as E-3 instead of E-2? Replace tedious with challenge, bring back adventure, outdoors and physical. All Eagles must meet the same high requirements no alternate requirements. Yep that means my sons don't earn Eagle but as Stosh says they can still be great scouts. Fire all Eagle advisors (oh, we are boy-run except when it comes to earning his Eagle). Allow an Eagle Trek in place of Eagle project where a candidate plans and leads a patrol solo, no adult (I can think of at least 4 HA to do this) My $0.01 rant

Thanks for the fix Krampus. Sorry about that. -RS

https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-news-wire/PRNews_20160316CG48850/boy-scouts-of-america-announces-fourth-largest-eagle-scout-class-in-history.html <--- has breakout state totals, Utah #1, Vermont #50 The BSA recently released a list of the young men who earned their Eagle rank in each of the 50 states. In total, 54,366 young men became Eagle Scouts in 2015, which amounts to 6.57 percent of eligible Scouts (defined as registered Boy Scouts or male Venturers under age 18). Though not a new record, it is the 4th largest yearly total.

Talk to your son's Scoutmaster whenever you have concerns. Next speak to the activity coordinator for any event that you question and the adults who were "working" that event. The next troop committee meeting may be best venue for those discussions. Anyway that is where I would start. Photos do not necessarily tell the whole story, but sometimes they do. A Cub Scout hike through a California nudist beach awhile back comes to mind.

That is an interesting treasure. Going by the stated second class requirements, my guess is the leaflet was printed between 1911 and 1915 when the Myer (not Meyer as spelled) code was a Second Class requirement. The Myer code requirement was dropped/restated in the 1915 revision of Second Class requirements in favor of the International Morse Code. http://www.troop97.net/pdfbin/bsa_ranks.pdf "Boy run" troops also meant "boy started" back then! Scoutmasters "commissioned" by Headquarters. I like it. Simple but challenging.

Been involved in 3 troops, and those troop BOR's may have, at most, just elevated priorities in the program, say a high adventure trek. I guess that is a good thing, in that any problems were already known and being worked. Can't recall any surprises from scouts. YMMV

What happens if a unit was in debt and shuts down, is the CO responsible to pay creditors?

For the three-legged naked run and swim, pick a buddy the same height.

Saves on encryption. What is of value to keep? Is it mostly telemetry data or is it von Braun yelling at Alan Shepard?

Seems to work for Boy's Life. I wonder how much longer before the Handbook will only be available electronically. Imagine pop-up ads while trying to read First Aid for snake bite.

He should say "Mom don't worry, I'll handle it."

<--- Hmm a "Lem Siddons situation" A new RV with a full tank of gas and out-of-state plates might do it. Just saying.

mine is 6th ed, 1st printing Nov, 1959 p447 full page Carlisle Bike Tires, Carlisle,PA inside front cover Goodyear bicycle tires inside back cover U.S. Royal bicycle tires Later printings of same edition had changes in ads.

Yes I used that same edition. Somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison, as the 6th edition price was lowered due to all the third-party ads (OMG rifles, jock straps, sardines, gum, bike tires, Coke, cameras, baseball bats and gloves, ammo, sneakers, fishing reels, outboards, archery, axes,...). Today's edition has only one ad - scoutstuff.org. I used the same handbook for 7 years.

My scouts have liked Ant-Man, Avengers,.. Interstellar Little Boy - WW2 but homefront The Giver - many had read the book October Sky - I think this was PG while the above were PG-13 so have to check with parents.