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  1. "My Jambo guide that we were given where the boys had things signed off for rockers is packed away at home. I'd be interested in seeing what it said if anything about earning the MC rocker." Scout Guide had next to nothing about the Mysterium Compass, and didn't list it as one of the rockers. The rockers in the guide were the 5k, Activities, Outback, Action Center, and Duty to God.
  2. Then where was the exclusion? I mean, it's not that big of a deal, but if the intention was for youth only, that should have been communicated clearly in the materials and transmitted clearly to the powers-that-be on the ground before and during the Jamboree. In the guide book, and in Central Region, it wasn't. And it would be a lot better if the publications and information provided for the Scouts actually reflected the program on the ground, not only for things like TOAP not being there, but also for the fact that a youngster who wanted to earn all the rockers had to either hope he
  3. That's per person. My council was $1500 for both scouts and adults. Round trip by bus, 2 days/1 night in DC, a duffel bag, a few t-shirts, maybe a few patches. Shakedown campouts were extra, I believe. Tents and equipment were sold off at cost to council troops at the end.
  4. Well, someone should have told the Commissioners and Subcamp Program people that. And if you actually read the Scout Guide, it never even remotely states they can be earned ONLY by youth. I just got mine out and read through it--it isn't there. It's frankly pretty poorly written to begin with, but that's beside the point. (Shouldn't the guide book reflect program areas that are actually there? Anybody ever find TOAP?) Also, it wasn't known during the Jamboree that the rockers only fit the youth patch, so it's not like that could have been used to justify youth-only. If program are
  5. There seemed to be a lack of information about the rockers across the board. Commissioners seemed to rather willy-nilly hand them out with no real idea of how it was supposed to work. I saw bags of rockers thrown in the trash in our subcamp because they thought they were just extras! Also, there were many staff members who were uncertain about whether or not they could earn them. I know a few that used their free time to do as much as they could as adults and earn them all, and then had to scramble to fight through ill-informed commissioners with conflicting directives about rockers
  6. "Out of a rather large sub-camp at Jambo, we had only 3-4 buglers. " Which has a LOT to do with Nationals de-emphasizing the skill over the course of the past decade. I was the bugler for my Jamboree troop in 2001. There were a lot of us, I remember more than a few mornings or evenings when I'd have the bugle on my lips ready to play and a kid in a neighboring campsite would start up. Heh, guess my guys got an extra minute here and there. I could buy a 2001 Jamboree bugle out of the catalog. I'd have to find my Scout Guide, but it was a leadership position in the book, as I recall.
  7. When I went to Jamboree as a Scout, I think I earned 4 merit badges. And still had time to do tons of other fun things. One was a fairly obscure merit badge I wanted to earn at home (Atomic Energy), but couldn't find a counselor, so I took about 6 hours of program time to do it there. Ended up having a blast, and it was one of the greatest experiences of my scouting career. Something that stands out a decade later. The other 3 were an afternoon out there with my buddies shopping for things we could do quickly. Yeah, a little cheap, but we all ended up with radically different badges we n
  8. Yeesh. Public Schools are now considered "socialist?" I don't even know where to start with that.
  9. It was quite fun to be walking one direction at Jamboree and see literally dozens of Scouts coming the other direction wearing the old garrison caps with big smiles on their faces. I wanted one for myself, but it seemed the adult visitors only wanted to trade them with kids for full sets of patches (through an intermediary kid, presumably). Guys were coming in for the day with stacks and stacks of the things to trade, and the kids were gobbling them up. Gotta say, they look GREAT with the new uniforms, which is quite surprising indeed. Bring back the garrison caps! (and the red-topped
  10. I wear my knots, and if I earn more, I will wear those, too. Right now it's only my three earned as a youth, AoL, religious, and Eagle. Someone who meets me for the first time can look at my shirt and see the journey I've taken in Scouting. They're conversation starters, a way of knowing at first glance what someone is bringing to the table. I know who to introduce to that Life Scout dragging his feet on his Eagle project. Or the youngster not sure if he wants to bridge over from Cub Scouts. "Look, see those two knots? Mr. Smith earned his Arrow of Light, and THEN became an Eagle Scout!
  11. emb021, I highly doubt you could have gotten back in line and managed to get even a second patch, much less 4. Lines at the Trading Posts were reaching blocks long by the 8AM hour. And, yes, they were all adults.
  12. HOORAY! Nationals actually gets one right! Now all they have to do is put a bugle in the Supply Catalog again and we're all set to go!
  13. I most certainly did just that, loudly reminding those booing around me that a Scout is Courteous. Got a few cross looks and a few discrete thumbs up. It was an embarrassing scene to watch, and left me in a pretty sour mood for a good long time.
  14. I hate to say that I agree with the sentiments regarding patch trading this time around. It's always been a big part of Jamboree, but I never recall seeing so much un-Scoutlike behavior surrounding it. I saw adults who were visitors taking advantage of adults AND youth, using middlemen to trade for popular sets from kids and then swiftly take their daily take to the big memorabilia show in Fredricksburg that night. I saw patches on blankets on the road near QBSA that still had the price tags on them from the night before! Let's also take a moment to discuss fake patch sets. Now, the H
  15. Has nothing to do with the political left 40 or 50 years ago. Has nothing to do with security concerns. Has nothing to do with how hot it was in 2005, as this Jamboree made provisions this time around to make sure the Death March didn't happen again. And it certainly has nothing to do with The View or the ACLU or anything else. The fact of the matter is that Scouts and Scouters IN UNIFORM booed the President of the United States. Period. And the BSA added to the disrespect by refusing to show the President's message during the actual show. Ted Nugent deserves his shot to congratulat
  16. Nope. Unless he managed to somehow get out of the harness and helmet in about .5 seconds. It was pretty clear from my vantage point he swapped out with a body double once the guy descended to the stage. Although, really, that would have been about the greatest stage entrance in history had he done it legitimately.
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    Sock Question

    Speaking of socks, does anyone know of some forgotten stash of red topped knee socks? I'm down to my last three pairs with elastic. I feel naked wearing the shorts with ankle socks.
  18. Extremely disappointed in the large number of Scouts and Scouters who loudly booed the message, and even more disappointed that the organizing powers that be placed the message 15 minutes before the show began. As Scouts we promise to be courteous, to do our duty to our country. All involved failed miserably tonight. I don't care who it is or how you feel about him. You do not boo the president. Period. Especially while wearing a Scout uniform. And the message of the Honorary President of our organization merits more than lull filler, even after Wednesday. It's been such a wonderful Jamb
  19. Anybody who still thinks this is true should go take a gander at the NESA booth at Jamboree this week, featuring actual certificates with Obama signatures. Myth: Busted.
  20. You might be surprised to know there are a lot of folks in his "base" at AP Hill this week who are quite devoted to Scouting. I'm one of them. But this is the situation the BSA puts itself into when it takes a pretty blatantly discriminatory policy and puts it at the forefront of it's identity as an organization. Yes, the Supreme Court has given it the right to do so, but the BSA has to live with it. I look at this situation and think that a bunch of adults got in the way of thousands of young men having the opportunity to see a sitting president in the flesh. Any sighs of relief about s
  21. It's nothing new. They were out of jacket patches yesterday, mugs, probably now out of belt buckles, random things here and there. Who knows I'd they're rationing anything, the staff doesn't know anything. Most of it is utter Chinese made crap anyway. Staff arena show was cancelled tonight at first whiff of a storm that never came. Thanks.
  22. Yep, wifi works but is getting slow and tempermental. Expecting it will be difficult or unusable when the masses arrive. Ticks are quite bad. Safety is a HUGE priority with frequent drills and audio announcements, which are nearly unintelligible. Major plans in place to ensure hydration and safe arena show mobilization. Water is available everywhere you look. Get to the trading post asap, they're getting sparse already.
  23. This one is being spread all over Fort AP Hill this week. I'm convinced most people here don't want him anywhere near that arena show because they think it's true. Shame they don't realize how great an opportunity it is for the boys to see a sitting president.
  24. There's no reason there can't be more than one, or that a youngster who holds another leadership position can't bugle as well. My troop has 3 young men who rotate amongst themselves, though I think only one is actually the official bugler.
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