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First of all, congratulations to your son for being on the doorstep to Eagle at only 12 (Wow!) and kudos as well for wanting to pursue such a worthy project. My only advice for you is to take a deep breath and wait for him to discuss this with his Scoutmaster, or Eagle mentor if your troop uses one. Your troop/councils Life to Eagle process will help him to develop his project to include suggestions on how to obtain the funds hell need. All of his (and your) questions should be answered before he starts the project. I do have the following comments/observations (offered with all du

Thanks to all for your posts -- you've given me some great ideas to incorporate into our ceremony!!

I think this is the one you're looking for. Don't ask me how these folks are able to do this -- I don't know the answer. http://www.bemidjiwoolenmills.com/details.php?id=voyscout

Short answer: Yes. You checked the correct reference. The Eagle Scout Leadership Project Workbook specifically spells out the requirements and limitations. As long those are met, he is fine. It's very common for the benefiting organization to pay for, or provide the materials and as packsaddle pointed out there's plenty of work to be done and plenty of leadership to be demonstrated. Best of luck to him.

Thanks for the additional info beasties mom. cubbingcarol, have you checked with your local library? We were fortunate to find that a local genealogical society had already catalogued the cemetery and included a map. The information was published in a pahmphlet and available at the library. Even the cemetery custodians weren't aware of the pamphlet. Thanks for you info as well.

Thanks for the tips, beasties mom. We'll make sure we bring screwdrivers. Out of curiostiy what size flags do you use? 4x6? 8x12? Our local cemetery is small, but dates back to 1825. We have veterans from the Revolutionary War up through WWII (according to the inscription on the stones). I'm assuming we have Korean and Vietnam vets, but as of yet we haven't located any (again based on the inscriptions). Judging from the lack of responses I guess there aren't too many folks who have done this, or perhaps it's as easy as it looks. I'll post back after Memorial Day if there's any g

Has anyone had any experience setting up/conducting the placement of flags on veterans graves? Im in the initial stages of working with our village government (they own the cemetery) to have the Troop place the flags in observance of Memorial Day. Trouble is, no one knows what the protocol is if any. I will be checking with local veterans groups for guidance, but was wondering if anyone on the forum has experience with this and could offer some pointers.

I share your anguish. Several years ago while attending an Outdoor Leaders Course the Scouter teaching the knot skills session asked if anyone needed help tying the bowline. To my utter amazement a young man with a very new looking Eagle Scout square knot on his shirt raised his hand. Made me wonder -- almost out loud -- if it were possible to clip the corners off a square knot.

Not necessarily. The OA Troop Representative Support Pak (www.oa-bsa.org/programs/ttr/oatrpaktoc.htm) states the following: If the unit leader is an Arrowman, he may explain to the group the purpose of the Order of the Arrow and the basis upon which candidates should be selected, and describe the method of election. I dont see a problem with the SPL and/or OA Troop Rep doing it as long as Scouts fully understand the voting rules and what membership in the Order means. Ive had similar concerns with the presentations given to my troop and I plan to thoroughly prepare the boys mys

Sylvar and Rip Van Scouter (and everybody else), The aloha shirts are in the on-line catalog. Just follow the "New in 2005" link on the menu and then look under "Custom Design". They're listed as "Island Camp Shirts" and are available as prints and solids. They apparently come in different colors but the on-line catalog doesn't allow you view all the choices.

No, youre thinking of when I got my buggy permit

Hmmmm, it could have been 1881 -- with purcelce its difficult to say, uh cuz he, uh looks so young of course. I had heard that Manchester lost their lease - glad to hear that is apparently not the case. Our troop did the high adventure sailing back in 2003 and we had a great time. If you go make sure you bring some time of water shoes. Youll be wading to/from the boats at least twice per day and the bottom is covered in rocks -- generally not of the smooth variety.

Congrats Foto!! I'm one who steadfastly believes that the "beadings" should take place in front of your unit. I'm glad to hear that you had such a good (and surprise) turnout!!

Congrats, you've obviously made a great impression on the staff. Gotta agree with you though, the impression you've made on your son is priceless. Best of luck with your ticket!!!

Congratulations and welcome to the herd fotoscout. My patrol had a great recipe for "meadow muffins" -- and the best part was we made 'em ourselves!!!!! Enjoy your beading.

Ditto, just do a search on "ashes ceremony" you should get a bunch of hits. Most will resemble this link: http://www.bsatrainer.org/Ashes/ASHES%20Ceremony.html Don't be afraid to modify the wording to suit your troop.

Ouch Eamonn, I think we all (unfortunately) know someone like that. If it were to happen to me I'd probably respond with a cheeky comment such as "looks fine from my perspective" or "Well, no matter how you look at it . . ."

I've learned that it isn't always enough to offer opportunities -- sometimes you also have to market them. Just because you think a particular activity will be awesome doesn't mean the Scouts will see it the same way.

I share your frustration Its Me, but if I may suggest, your focus is wrong. How many of your Cub Scout will be attending the campout? Like hops has already offered, you won't always have 100% participation. Don't agonize over who isn't attending, instead look at how many do. If you look at it from that angle and focus on providing a quality program, I believe your unit will be healthy and your level of satisfaction will increase. Its when you have virtually no participation that you need to worry. On the issue of Scouts vs sports, I'm definitely in the camp of those who say if you are

Eamonn - "This is the guy who has one of the knots on his uniform on upside down." Come again?? BW - "But we all agree that the symbolism is of an overhand knot and for the resons expressed in the handbook" Amen. Unc - "If it were in my power, I'd change the title of this thread to 'We all need to get lives!'" You mean ouside of Scouting?

I think TwoCub has keyed in on the most likely answer I was intrigued by this thread when it first appeared but didn't have time to participate. My first reaction was also an overhand knot, but I think TwoCub is on the right trail -- I think we're victims of the artists. As was pointed out by Be_Prepared, the older Scout handbooks do say it is a "simple overhand knot". Specifically the 1948 and 1957 editions contain that wording, but it's gone by the 1968 version. What really caught my eye while leafing through the aforementoned handbooks was how much the design appears to hav

which causes them to "flare" up when they hit the flames. The boys haven't figured it out yet, and whenever any of them asks what causes it, I just reply that there must have been a lot of Scout spirit in those previous campfires

I like that tradition OGE and since my troop now has a bugler I think we'll give it a try on our next campout. Owl, I'm with you. I believe the memories of our campfires will outlast many of the things the boys do in Scouting. We also just enjoy sitting and looking at the fire -- we call it "camp TV". I've also started doing an ashes ceremony at our campfires. We've only done it 3 times so far, but the boys now ask for it on each campout. As I mentioned in a similar thread, I add some non-dairy creamer to the scoop of ashes which causes them t(This message has been edited by Many

Thanks for all the suggestions folks. Sorry I didn't reply sooner - camping this weekend. YIS

Belated greetings thenry. I spent a couple of years attending school just east of you in Raleigh. The family and I really enjoyed our time in NC. I hope you enjoy this campfire as much, there's good information and fellowship to be found here. YIS, Many Irons P.S. Good luck (again) with your campfire ash ceremonies.