Eagle92

In addition to the hat press, also get a vinyl hat cover. My first smokey got soaked before I could get a cover. I received it at my Brownsea 22 graduation and it started raining while we were packing up to leave. I use it when I am camping and there is a good chance of rain, still use the cover, but if anything happens, not to worried about the hat. It's changed colors, is warped, and has been heavily used and looks it. Now my newer smokey is in very good shape as I've kept in a press and also carry a a hat cover just in case. Looks like it did on the day it was issued to me for working

Had the opportunity today to stop by the council office in the city I work in. Since it's sometimes easier to pick up things and attend stuff their, I asked about CS training since I want a refresher. So I started talking about things that I will need before my son and I join a pack and unit numbers come up. I mentioned the Red Numbers on the new uniforms for Webs and leaders and was told that it correct, despite what the literature out shows. Also told the new ICG will be out in january. Why do I think that once the last shipment of khaki and green numbers is used up, they switch back t

Lem, Have you ever traveled across thsi great country of our? if you have you will notice that every region will have it's own customs and traditions in referecne to courtesy. For example when I was in TX and LA, you had people nodding hello all the time. Wher eI'm at now people actually tell you hello. Up north where I visited, people just made sure they didn't run into you. So it is with scouting. I can't quote the book sicne I don't have it in front of me, but it does have a good definition. It is HOW it is applied to your area that causes the differences. Scouting is not like

Every unit is different. For example, in my troop the adults were called Mr. Joe, Mr. Mike, with very few exceptions. Notably the doctor, the priest, and those gray area scouters 18-21 who grew up in the troop. I was alway addressed by my last name. Now the OA in part of the woods is a little different as we are all brothers who undergo the Ordeal. No matter if you are a 16 yo Vigil Honor member or a brand new 43 yo Ordeal member, we are all brothers. Most of us in the OA have some nickname that we use based upon something we've done with in the OA. We use those for both youth and adul

I was a POACHER When I was a CS, my DC was from a troop that was not chartered by the same church as the Pack. My church's troop wasn't interested in the pack except around graduation time. needless to sat they were hurting for members, and when they heard about 30 Webelos gradutating, they were excited. Unfortunately for them out of 30 Webelos, 10 went to their DC's troop, and the other 20 quit becasue they thought that AOL was the end of the road as they had NO troop support. A few years later and a transfer to another troop, I wanted to get involved with my old Pack as a DC

SSScout, Now now, you don't want to look like the Belgians do ya? cause that's what they do. Or at least did in 1995 when I worked with a bunch of their units.

GA, Best thing to do is get a copy of the 1970's handbook and then a copy of the 1979 handbook written by GBB. While there are some similarities, the outdoor sections of the 1979 ed. completely outdo the previous ed. Growing up I heard stories of my cousin's expereinces in scouting and got a my brother's handbook from the period. I read that book and couldn't wait to be a CS then a BS so i could do someof the things. While CS was ok, when I got into BS and got the GBB handbook, I was in complete awe at all the cool new stuff inthe book. It really got me going. It's over 25 years si

I think part of Lem's problem is that he was involved in CS in the 1970s. So #1 he was involved in a program that didn't give you the excitement and adventure of Boy Scouts, just a taste and usually with dad. Secondly, most people will admit that the "urban" scouting of the 1970s was a dismal failure. heck that's why they brought Green Bar Bill out of retirement to write the 9th ed. of the handbook in 1979. To improve the program. So Lem really has no experience of true scouting, but opinions from 30 years ago during an acknowledged low period of Scouting. Another thing is that as th

SctDad, Yes I know exactly which district as it is my old district as a pro AND the one I volunteer in. DON"T DO IT Seriously since you have kids that are CS age, be a volunteer and enjoy it b/c as a pro you won't be able to do much with them. I don't know if they were serious or joking, but a few people approached me for the job and i said NO! Six month and counting before I can join the Blue Terror as a TC DL

I must disagree with ya LEM, it is the lawsuits that are driving the BSA nuts. Scouters do have liability insurance in the form of their membership fees. The problem is if you do not follow the G2SS, you are not covered. The G2SS was developed in response to the numerous lawsuits that have arisen. Unfortunately if you are a large organization, whether for profit or non-profit, you are a target for lawsuits. Heck even if you are a wealthy individual you are4 a target. Don't believe me, ask McDonalds, Wendy's, or even watch a few daytime commercials of lawyers advertising that "you may have a ca

Camp Salmen, Crew21 is definately right. You know my background Sweatpea since we worked camp together and served on the LEC together. I grew up and worked in a large mostly metropolitan district with a few rural communities. Being a volunteer was a lot easier because everything was within a 15 minute drive except the ocassional meeting at a rural unit. BUT when I took over my mostly rural district, and it was a small one at that, It could take me 45 minutes to get somewhere. The when you added council responsibilities, I remember having to drive 3 hours one way to attend a 1.5 hour co

OK Now I am ticked off. Your DAC need to be FIRED because he is violating national advancement guidelines by adding requirements, the "Eagle Adviser" signature, on a service project approval. While I beleive the scout should do some things to protest this injustice, since he is obviously getting the run around and not being taken seriously, then adults need to get involved. This is the one thing I hate about some scouters, they do not take the Scouts seriously. Something I would do. 1) get a copy of the Advancement Guidelines, the book I posted a link to previously that has all the r

professional Motto: Ashes to ashes Dust to Dust When volunteers can't The professional must

Camp Salmen, You will NOT be working with youth, but with the adults to ensure they scouts get what they need. If you are in the council I think you are in, SELAC, I thought some of those problems were solved when Willie was SE, or did Katrina cause the problems to reoccur? Now a few questions for you. 1) How much expereince do you have on a district committee? 2) How Much FOS expereince do you have? 3) What type of relationship do you have with the Volunteers in the district currently? 4) Is your wife prepared for you to be gone most evenings and some weeken

Sarge, Not a problem. heck I even said that the tan and green numbers were a mistake unless you make Blue and Gold Numbers for CS and Green and Gold numbers for Venturing. Then again I guess the CS could use the Sea Scout blue and white numbers

Technically, and this is in the ICG, a Council level scouter, district and council folks, are supposed to wear the Silver loops. Further on their left sleeve they wear a council strip, POR, trained insignia (if earned) and Arrowhead Award ( if a commissioner and earned). Unit number are not to be worn. Now is this followed by all district level folks. NO. Some only wear their unit specific uniform. Others wear their unit numbers with the district uniform, i.e. Dist. Vice chair with troop number. Me personally, as soon as I was offered a district job, I got a new shirt with all the

I've encountered this situation only twice. In the UK a sea scout ship I briefly worked with had their own club house where they stored their equipment, conducted meetings, etc right on the beach. I believe that situation was set up as a trust or whatever the British equivalent is. I also saw one unit have their own building. Don't know if it is actually owned by the CO or the troop, but it's about 2 to 3 blocks away from the CO and was a private house at one time.

What do you mean by this, did the DAC say something and if so what? I would strongly suggest that your son contact the CAC and SE, as well as your COR about this problem as they are now violating advancement policy. Again sometimes adults don't take scouts seriously, but when a COR gets involved, things start moving.(This message has been edited by eagle92)

I think the can of worms is opening up again

YES!!!! your son has taken intiative and I like it! THAT IS LEADERSHIP! I hope this matetr gets resolved ASAP! It may be that yes he is taking it out on your son for "bypassing" the 'adviser" but as already mentioned, ther eis no such thing as and eagle adviser and once your son has the organizational signature, SM (or ASM in your case) signature and the CC's signature, then it automatically goes to the DAC. As to the committee situation, I heartily occur that some revisions need to occur on the troop committee. I don't know how other units do it, but when I went through the process,

Chapter meetings can be boring, especially 2 hours. My chapter keeps it to 1 hour with 30 minutes extra for American Indian Affairs ( ceremony, singing, and dance teams) IF needed. If that is the problem let him run for chapter office and see fi he can bring some life to the OA. Programs can do it. At one chapter meeting, we had the local CSI officer do a presentation. We just passed out surveys and there is alot of interest in the OA High Adventure programs: OA Trail Crew at Philmont, Ocean Adventure at Sea Base, and Wilderness Adventure at Northern Tier. We're lucky in that one of the

Wait one minute, the Scout has the organization's to be aided approval, the SM 9 or in your case an ASM's approval since dad is SM, AND the CC's approval? The you you can go straight to teh DAC since the "adviser" works for the SM or CC, depending upon his registration. Once the "adviser's" boss signs off, i.e. SM or CC, then it goes directly to the DAC. I recommend your son contact ther DAC or CAC ASAP to expedite this process immediately. Especially if this is attempt number 7 as you stated. AT THE MOST, a project proposal should be revised ONCE. This is riduclous and I am gettign angry at t

Let me get back with you as we have a member of the lodge who uses OA and also Lodge jeopardy for training and fun. I'll see what he has as whenever he does it, I'm usually either getting dressed to dance or at the powwow.

"can't use non-Scouts" what the heck? Where is that in the project workbook? I had one Eagle who said since his church's youth group is going to benefit from the project, they should do the bulk of the work. With the exception of one or two scouts in the troop not members of his troop, everyone else was a member of the church group, and that included scouts from our troop,3 or 4 neighboring troops, and non-scouts.

Why the heck does an "adviser" present for approval the eagle project to the DAC when it is the SCOUT'S responsibility to do that? That is part of the entire process of demonstrating leadership. As for the "100% success rate, who really cares. If a scout needs some adjustments, then the DAC needs to recommend them to be inlcuded in the Life to Eagle workbook. I don't think this gentleman really knows what he is doing, despite being a former DAC. He's not following policy by letting the Scout do the bulk of the work. Instead he seems to be more interested in "success" of the project t