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  1. Yes. I am a Scouter and I wear my youth religious award knot (for God and Me) with pride alongside my Eagle and Arrow of Light knots. You never "outgrow" it. PS: No, I do not wear the "God and Me" medal. That stayed on my Cub Scout uniform.(This message has been edited by Eagle707)
  2. Unit College Scouter Reserve exists for exactly the reason described above: it ONLY requires YPT and allows college-age leaders to serve with a unit without penalizing the unit for having "untrained" ASMs.
  3. This is an interesting thread for me to read because I used to be in the same lodge that SeattlePioneer would be part of now. The lodge (T'Kope Kwiskwis) ceremonies team won the section's ceremonies competition every year between 2004 and 2010. Also, as far as the fear of disconnect from history, local tribes have written songs and dances specifically for the lodge (if I recall correctly- it has been a while). When the lodge started rebuilding their longhouse, representatives of local tribes were invited to participate in the groundbreaking. They also have been consulted when creating
  4. 1) To quote you, vol_scouter: "Gotta love liberals, when their view of the world fails they simply say that was not what they were talking about." I feel like you just did the same thing here (though you are not a liberal). If tariffs are not being discussed then why did you mention them when describing your Nordic country? You said the government "tried to keep foreign alcoholic beverages out with exorbitant taxes." That is the definition of a tariff: "a schedule of duties imposed by a government on imported or in some countries exported goods" (courtesy of m-w.com). However, when I m
  5. Vol: If it makes you feel any better, there are (where I live) plenty of private healthcare clinics and stores are able to set their own hours. Also, using tariffs to keep out foreign goods is hardly unique to Europe. The United States has done this several times throughout our history. One good example is the Smoot-Hawley tariff which was signed into law by President Hoover (who is not widely described as a socialist). I suppose if we want to get the government completely out of our lives, we should cut Medicare, Social Security, public schools, public safety (police, fire, EMS
  6. I would say that the Nordic system is actually fairly rosy (and this is from a citizen of a Nordic country). A couple examples that come to mind: -Higher education is fully funded but admissions rates are lower (a merit-based reward system) -The government subsidizes all student meals for all students (exchange, part-time, immigrant, etc). At my university, that only includes a main dish, salad, and bread or, as we call it, a healthy meal that keeps the government from promoting obesity. However, like LisaBob said, the European crisis is about poor banking policies. If all No
  7. Tampa: I definitely did not mean to question your parenting at all so I apologize if it came across as such. The only other thing I could even thing to suggest is what you seem to be doing already: "If you choose not to get homework done, you're choosing to skip Scouts" (though I'd only use that option if that is the ONLY way he can get homework done that night). Best of luck.
  8. When I was in high school, I carried a pretty heavy homework load (I was an IB student) and there were times that I had to skip meetings because of homework. However, it was always my call whether or not I went to the troop meetings. Sometimes I went to troop meetings when I had not completed my homework and then I would finish it when I came home. Incidentally, I did not suffer academically: I graduated with a 3.88 GPA (and an IB Diploma) and earned my Eagle rank as a high school sophomore. I'm a fan of letting the Scout make the call (with parents intervening if necessary). Also
  9. I don't think you really need to look at year by year numbers. Just look at how we produced one million Eagle Scouts between 1982 and 2009. Eagle has become a program focus and I think that is reflected in the number of Eagles we are now producing. I am only a College Scouter so I cannot vouch for this but, like Perdidochas said, I think the Eagle rank has become the goal while, in the past, the goal was to be a Scout. However, I don't think this increase in Eagles is a bad thing. I belonged to a troop that was not an Eagle mill but still turned out a substantial number of Eagle Scout
  10. If my fellow college students are any indication, there would be healthy demand for a "Network" section for 18-25. There are a lot of people (especially female) who would have loved to be Scouts and are appalled to find out they could have done Venturing (it's the one I bring up since it fits the demographic best). I know a lot of people would be interested in starting in an "adult only" Scout program. Speaking of female members... I once asked my (former) Scoutmaster (who, I might point out, fulfilled B-P's vision of a Scoutmaster to the letter) if he had been a Scout? His answer wa
  11. Scouts in my troop loved TLT (which we called JLT but that's a different story) and we did it on an annual basis (though I don't know if our trust fall/trust circle games were from BSA literature). We had the SPL help the Scoutmaster lead the activities and we had Scouts repeat the course not because they "failed" but because they liked TLT and wanted to do it again. I've heard mixed reviews about NYLT but that may be due to how my council does it. I'm not sure about that. I think taking "This is Scouting" is an equalizer because then, no matter how many years you may or may not have
  12. I won't get into the whole Finland-Sweden debate but I will say Suunto has gotten my family through two generations of Scouting. The compass I have now has given me 10 years of service and still works as well as ever. They're a little pricey but they're as good as they come: http://www.rei.com/product/727086/suunto-a-10-compass Also, you could use this as a lesson for your Scouts: "A Scout is Thrifty" doesn't mean we should be afraid to buy something that's worth the price!
  13. "Whenever any question arises pertaining to the suitability of "young adults" to serve as Scouters, several "young adults" regularly pipe up listing out their qualifications." That statement is correct but it still leaves me with one question: why is listing our qualifications suddenly a negative quality? We do indeed list our qualifications because that is exactly what older adults teach us to do. We are told if we can show our qualifications, we might be taken seriously. I don't think there's any excuse to generalize about "young adults" when you are considering potential leaders.
  14. Whether McQueary is an Eagle is irrelevant. If you want to indict Eagle Scouts based on the actions of one person, I'll save you the trouble of searching: Russell Henderson was an Eagle Scout. Russell Henderson was also one of the murderers of Matthew Shepard (I'm not going to describe the brutal murder but you are welcome to research the specifics). If you want to indict Eagles, here's your guy. He's as nasty an Eagle Scout as you will find. Does that make all two million plus of us suspect? Absolutely not. As Sherm mentioned, some of the best examples of the Eagle rank (and/or th
  15. Eng61: We agree that the situation was handled poorly. However, I'm also going to agree with Moose-Blacksmith: condemning a group based on the actions of a few is grossly negligent. If we turned this around we could say that, in the interest of youth safety, we should not allow anyone over the age of 40 to volunteer with the Boy Scouts since we have seen cases of 40 year-olds molesting Scouts. You are using the graduate student as evidence that college students are not worthy of serving as leaders. However, it looks like you are giving the "adults" a free pass both in this scandal and
  16. Thanks for clarifying: my understanding of the situation was incorrect. Mea culpa. With that information, this becomes completely different- if he was 28, I feel like he doesn't fit in with the age group we're discussing (I think of "college-age" for for this age as undergraduate students) and, if he actually saw this happening (I had understood he had only heard stories second-hand), his lack of action is reprehensible. I guess I can only stand on my previous question: Why are we using this case to cast college students as suspicious when we're discussing how it was much older men who
  17. I'm not sure how the 20 year old becomes the villain here or even how it pertains to this thread: Are you saying that young college students will simply accept/overlook incidents of physical, verbal, or sexual abuse? If that is the case, that is patently untrue. Blaming the graduate student for the actions of people three times his age is unfair. He followed his procedures and did exactly what he had been taught to do: Report to those above him and make sure it was documented. Given who he was reporting about, and the potential repercussions, he should be commended for coming forward a
  18. That's a pretty impressive group. Thanks for posting the link. Scout/Guide clubs aren't as common in the United States but they're slowly gaining popularity and some schools even charter Venturing units. According to Mike Walton's Scoutinsignia.com, the BSA used to charter Exploring units to universities but they didn't make the switch to Venturing. In my case, my friends and I created an informal group at our university but we're still working toward full university recognition. We volunteer for council and district events when our schedules allow and encourage Roundtable attenda
  19. "I'll be going from watching out for russian[sic] generals to watching out for scouters wearing devices." Call me sanctimonious but I would encourage you to take the time you spend judging fellow Scouters and put that time into serving your unit. Your Scouts need your attention a lot more than another person's uniform does. Some Scouters with a lot of knots can be less-than-admirable but one of the worst Scouters I have ever seen did not have any square knots. It goes both ways. If you see Scouters with several devices on their Scouter's Keys, try to learn something from them inst
  20. If you ever encounter a Scout whose home unit won't accept him as a leader encourage him to join his university's council as a DISTRICT/COUNCIL College Scouter (code 92 instead of 92U). That's what I had to do when I went to university and, once I got there, I found other students in a similar situation and we now have a College Scouter group on campus. So far, my district has been more than happy to use us as volunteers (and we've had a few members asked to serve as assistant unit leaders). Also, as far as the better rapport goes, I happened to run into my former Jamboree Scoutma
  21. I remember SCOUTS in my troop doing this and, as a younger Scout, I thought that was the way things were supposed to be done. I heard "signs up" as an order instead of as "sign's up." Eventually, my troop moved away from that though, and we were better disciplined once people stopped yelling "sign's up." Boys figuring something out on their own? Who'd have thought it?
  22. A few thoughts off the top of my head: Buy some of the posters from ScoutStuff and put them in frames to hang in your garage. Specifically, I'm thinking about these two: http://www.scoutstuff.org/merits-of-scouting-poster.html http://www.scoutstuff.org/1910-2010-csatari-poster.html There are also posters with the Scout Oath, Scout Law, and Outdoor Code. For displaying patches (if they insist), I'd recommend a hide rack: It looks rustic and would be perfect for a "Scout Cave." http://boyslife.org/hobbies-projects/projects/8223/make-a-hide-rack/ Finally, maybe they coul
  23. I would say you definitely can wear it since the Insignia Guide allows it. As for worrying about being "in good taste," I think your fellow Scouter's view will be what you encounter 99 percent of the time. Ultimately, though, it's up to the wearer. I know some Scouters who I greatly respect wear only the knot even for Eagle Courts of Honor. Personally, I keep my Eagle medal in the box it came in and wear it only for Eagle Courts of Honor. If you're worried about someone seeing the medal and the knot, you can pin the medal right beneath the Eagle knot and the scroll will cover part of
  24. I'm unclear if my records followed me to my new council but my number definitely did not. I assumed that, since they needed my ID number to transfer my primary registration (still an MBC in the old council), that the number would move with me. However, my new council's registrar told me this was not the case. This clarification came only two weeks ago so, as much as I would love to see the scenario that was explained to Eagle92, I assume this is the status quo.
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