The notice from National responding to NPR report of DD considering dumping Scouting

[qwazse]

2 hours ago, Tron said:

Not much meat here except a personal comment. Is the scouting caucus going to actually level a position on this? 

What position? Like a bill to reduce DoD's budget by the amount they would no longer spend to help secure jamborees or feed scouts evacuated from a hurricane?

[skeptic]

3 hours ago, Tron said:

Not much meat here except a personal comment. Is the scouting caucus going to actually level a position on this? 

Hard to say.  If they have the fortitude to stand up to the ignorance that continues to grow out of this sorry administration, maybe.  Not going to hold my breath though.  

[Tron]

17 hours ago, qwazse said:

What position? Like a bill to reduce DoD's budget by the amount they would no longer spend to help secure jamborees or feed scouts evacuated from a hurricane?

Yeah, .00000000000000000000000000000001% of the military budget; good one, they'll just order 1 less box of $10,000 toilet seats. 

16 hours ago, skeptic said:

Hard to say.  If they have the fortitude to stand up to the ignorance that continues to grow out of this sorry administration, maybe.  Not going to hold my breath though.  

I'd just be surprised if they had any fortitude? Fun point about this administration, Trumps approval rating is like 10% above the projected percentage of likely voters who were going to vote for him. He's actually polling better now than before his re-election. Seriously though, what's the position of the scouting caucus? I don't see one, someone throw me a link to a real position. As far as I can see they're not taking a position on this. What's the point of putting time into having a scouting caucus if they're just going to roll over and take it? 

[RememberSchiff]

On 11/26/2025 at 8:57 AM, RememberSchiff said:

IMHO, Scouting America should ask well-spoken Robert Gates, former president of the Boy Scouts of America and Secretary of Defense for Presidents Bush and Obama to respond.

or maybe a testimonial marketing campaign on Scouting impact, an example:

 

Edited November 29 by RememberSchiff

[skeptic]

2 hours ago, Tron said:

Yeah, .00000000000000000000000000000001% of the military budget; good one, they'll just order 1 less box of $10,000 toilet seats. 

I'd just be surprised if they had any fortitude? Fun point about this administration, Trumps approval rating is like 10% above the projected percentage of likely voters who were going to vote for him. He's actually polling better now than before his re-election. Seriously though, what's the position of the scouting caucus? I don't see one, someone throw me a link to a real position. As far as I can see they're not taking a position on this. What's the point of putting time into having a scouting caucus if they're just going to roll over and take it? 

I did not get any esponse, but I have challenged them to actually stand up for the basic tenets of Scouting and to not just use their "support" or being an Eagle as some kind of additional reason to tempt people to vote for them.  I do not see many of them living the tenets in their so called leadership positions.   If they did, perhaps we might actually see something positive develop in Congress.  I get the impression many of them do not understand how poorly they are living those tenets, if at all.  Certainly few are serving with Honor, or "doing their best", if the results we have are any measure

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[RememberSchiff]

Meanwhile,  three Eagle Scouts from Troop 7, Long Island have been nominated for the service academies at Annapolis (Navy), West Point (Army), and Kings Point (Merchant Marine). 

"It's great to see the progression from wide-eyed fifth grade kids entering the troop and now showing how productive young men they are to the community," says Troop 7 Scoutmaster Mike Stencel.

Scout Salute.

Source:

https://longisland.news12.com/3-li-eagle-scouts-earn-congressional-nominations-to-3-military-service-academies

Edited Saturday at 02:50 PM by RememberSchiff

[skeptic]

Reality is that we that perpetuate the real programs from our personal trenches locally need to scout on and take aid if we are fortunate from a local council.  Sadly, our local experience is far from positive, though they do pass along most of the National rehash of some older viable options and many, in my view, suspect ideas that tip toe on the edge of real Scouting.  

[Tron]

On 12/27/2025 at 12:35 PM, skeptic said:

Reality is that we that perpetuate the real programs from our personal trenches locally need to scout on and take aid if we are fortunate from a local council.  Sadly, our local experience is far from positive, though they do pass along most of the National rehash of some older viable options and many, in my view, suspect ideas that tip toe on the edge of real Scouting.  

I think your first sentence hits the nail on the head. I would add that before there was any relationship with the US military we at the ground level were already doing the duty. 

 

To your second sentence: I know that my council is in life support mode and is mission inaffective; however, based on what I read online and the interactions I have with other scouters throughout the country I wonder how many (as a percentage of the total units) are not even trying to run the program as designed? I would even go so far as to say originalists that are trying to run things out of the original scoutmasters handbook fall into the program as designed bucket; and, in that situation, are the number of units trying to run the program as designed less than 50%? I horribly fear that to be the case.