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I appreciate your kind words. When I read this, as quoted, it is painful. Not so much for me but for our boys. I was in such a bad way after our oldest asked me to join Scouts that it combined with another event to set off a train wreck lasting 20 years. I know survivors who watch this forum who were able to stand with their kids through Scouting and see them get all the benefits and none of the horrors or downsides. My boys have paid a very dear price for my condition. So it goes. We KBO, as Winston would say.

Before you got to this sentence, 2 bucks came immediately into my little brain. I joined in 1972. Might have been less. For all I know, and I wouldn't put it past him, our SM was skimming the extra coin for the beer fund.

My wife will be pleased to know her work and my effort to compare it to the BSA context paid a dividend. I'm going to take some of the credit for the movement in thinking, even if I don't deserve it.

The existence of repeated, mirror image suits over a course of 100 years is a sign of "malpractice." That hospital would be out of business looong ago and doctors, and likely executives, locked up. My wife's job is to "stop the malpractice," create systems that something doesn't happen again, and very, very carefully examining every aspect of what happened, who "touched" the patient or associate or public interface. That analysis literally happens and is escalated to her and the chief medical officer close to real time. If it's significant, I'm talking about a call at 3AM. If you could see the level of assessment, reporting, careful scrutiny, circling the policy wagon and protocols teams and on down the line, the degree of difference would be obvious and staggering. The key differences are: (1) instant reporting and escalation; (2) immediate engagement of systems of analysis, continued reporting and aggressive and unrelenting efforts to "fix" whatever happened to create the unfortunate incident, large or small; and (3) contact with the aggrieved parties, colleagues and oversight boards to begin whatever process of interaction or intervention is appropriate. So, the existence of suits and settlements that mirror others over a span of time that go unabated, less than highly reported, even moderately unmitigated and absent meaningful interface with the aggrieved is a sure sign of "malpractice," whether by a hospital or the BSA. It just is. Precisely. And, broke and disbanded (or purchased, dismantled, fully restaffed and intricately restructured).

Apologies to Qwaze. I'm sorry for reacting and not taking a deep breath and a closer look.

Watching my wife in her role as the risk executive for a hospital system, I think there is a critical difference. Claims, suits, settlements and judgements against any system, even one that is vast like hers, have a smattering of varied types of claims. There isn't a clear pattern of one significant type of alleged "negligence/malpractice" year after year. Here, we have a singular type injury, reported within a single organization, repeated over and over and over and over again. The two are not comparative nor can one genuinely set the contexts side by side, whether with hospitals or society at large. That is my view anyway.

It's unfortunate this offensive argument is being recycled. As I've said before, it's mind boggling to have this burden and liability placed on my 11 year old self. Mystery solved. I feel so much better knowing I am the one to blame for my continued abuse and that of others abused after me by our perverse Scoutmaster. Does this really make sense to anyone else. Really? I and/or my parents were equally responsible and now liable alongside the DE later SE who knew there was grooming behavior going on in our Troop? I was supervising the other 11-13 year olds...? Really?

I think you're incorrectly defining the words as giving "active permission." Although allow does sometimes mean, "to permit," it does not necessarily or often mean to grant permission. More accurately, it means to fail to prevent. "He allowed the dog to roam the streets." "She allowed the water to run off the table and onto the floor." They failed to affirmatively act to prevent is to allow. Definition of allow transitive verb 1a: PERMIT doesn't allow people to smoke in his home b: to fail to restrain or prevent allow the dog to roam 2a: to assign as a share or suitable amount (as of time or money) allow an hour for lunch b: to reckon as a deduction or an addition allow a gallon for leakage

If you are interested in discussing, feel free to DM me. My therapist has a great network of colleagues. I would never push, but I think being in therapy is critical for most of us. That's my take after 20 years of it. I'd be in worse shape without it. Much...

Personally, I don't. But, and I hope you are aware of this, the BSA will pay for your therapy. I will give you the contact information via DM. If anyone knows, I would be interested to know more about the abuse counseling reimbursement program they implemented some years ago. What spurred it? Who's decision was it? When did it start? I was not aware of it until the bankruptcy and I began surfing the various survivor sites they set up. I wish I had known about it years ago. Yes, very late. But you have started. I'm proud of you for going through that door, late or not!

Yeah. Maybe. I tend to think it's so long it was only read to check for things to redact. To me, in this context, the length negates the impact and the content negates the intent. It seemed more like a letter to the BSA executives than to the judge about the impact of abuse and the need to do right by victims. Same. See above. I have no idea what's true in there and what's not. To me, sorry to say, it's less than material because it blurs the focus of what I hope to see from all of this. Me too. I'm not interested in inflicting pain, per se, though that may be the result. I'm ready for progress and an end of the nonsensical posturing. I felt like we were on the just on cusp of it when the judge bent to the wishes of the mediators and pushed us back down the hill. Perhaps those mediators are genius soothsayers and snake charmers. We shall see. Or not.

I didn't see reason to mention it, but I have caught un-redacted documents that were marked redacted or sealed. I click on things just hoping I can get in. I called it to the attention of the clerk who linked me to the Omni Agent folks. I now have their contact info to go direct when these oopsies pop up. In fairness, they are absolutely mobbed by this case. From what I've learned, that handoff has been the point of communication breakdown. (Hm. I could post another music video on that note. Get it?) I was referring to the Docket postings. If I missed the point, apologies.

Well, I am a bit wrangled about Matt deleting my music video. I'm kidding!! You guys have truly been AMAZING and especially gracious to me when things have gotten heated and sideways. I admire what you do tremendously. Not a job I would want or could do so well!!

For gee whiz, I'll add another article. It provides the basic underlying understanding of CPTSD. The best book I've read on CPTSD was written by Pete Walker, a professional therapist who is also a survivor. It's titled, "Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving." It's not an easy read, though. (I hope these posts are not considered off-topic. They could be very helpful for anyone interested in what lead to this Chapter 11, as well as provide insight into what we survivors live with, sometimes on a daily basis.) https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/09/03/what-is-complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd/ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20556323-complex-ptsd

This is on topic, but a bit to the side at the moment. For any who care to read about Complex PTSD as it relates to men and thus the case, here is an excellent article. https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/11/04/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-and-men-how-men-express-the-symptoms/

Ok. I tried. Too much invective and ranting for me to wade in too deeply. I'll take you at your good word. As I've said, I think he's extremely smart and strategic. This prescience doesn't surprise me.

Where did you see his arrow? I don't Twitter, Tweet or twiddleedeet.

You did an exceptionally good job. Yeah, it certainly appeared so. Assuming little is accomplished in the mediation sessions, perhaps they will at least flush into the light issues like this that have no hope of negotiated resolution.

There was a scuttlebutt about all of this last summer. https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/838822_1084.pdf

Any thoughts for us on this? https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/6a3a77a4-56e8-4223-85e5-2f79660d2138_5057_A.pdf

I had no idea. My apologies. I was following what looked like a clean lead, but was a false trail. Maybe you should direct me to the rules, bitte. I'll see if Tim Kosnoff will post it for me. JK!!

Oops! I take it all back... Enjoy the video in any event. Ha. I'll be surprised if anyone joins me on that score.

If anyone wants to connect more "personally" regarding the victim/survivor/claimant perspective, please feel free to DM me. That's an open invite to survivors and non-survivors. Not looking for sabre rattle, though.

He's not "in" court or before the judge. He's the war hammer beating the drum. Remember, he's one of many and not getting face time with the judge. Among his cohort are surgeons and cat herders and skilled craftsman. I'm beginning to understand his role as we go along. I repeat myself, but this man has made a career of representing sexual abuse survivors, has seen and heard untold horror stories, and knows a thing or 100 about this stuff. Crazy like a fox, me thinks. When he beats the drum, it sends ripples through the case. Others ride the waves. Okay. Enough poetry for one day. Is there such a thing? I hope not.