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ThenNow

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  1. Since I'm not familiar with the other cases or the Michigan AG's motive and politics, I'm very curious how/why this is happening in this time and space. From my experience in other businesses and top level insurance brokerage through my wife, these are often political animals looking for a crusade to win. I'd love the backstory, if anyone has insight. I recognize this could be a 100% justice motivated and that would be great. I guess it doesn't really matter. I'm glad it's being done, yet curious.
  2. For my part, I concur. Buckle up, pack a lunch and bring a pee can.
  3. Ok. I just cut and pasted this into my running journal of highly insightful things I wish I was wise enough to recognize and write eloquently. There is an entire book to write in that one paragraph. If written, I might be able to put it on my shelf with "Amusing Ourselves to Death," "Life: The Movie," and "Why We Don't Talk to Each Other Anymore."
  4. That was a very cool thing to do with part of his settlement money.
  5. I understand that statistically, but I doubt the AG has that data. It is more the impression of the thing, than the substance I was noting. Just wondering out loud. If the XYZ family has the most absentee days on the school roster on the hallway bulletin board, unless you know they're Irish Catholic farmers with 15 kids it looks dicey. Btw, I'm Irish Catholic from farm country so I can say that.
  6. I wonder if seeing Michigan Crossroads at the top of the LC list for most claims caught their attention or if this has been long bubblin' in the percolator.
  7. Going to circle back on this. (Smirk and a nod to Jen Psaki.) Can any of you BSA historians help me with this? I am very curious. I would also like to get a sense if this will be a line item/funded project into the future, assuming that future exists, of course. Many thanks!
  8. My friend is not an attorney, but his profession is to watch major business-related machinations with hawk eyes. He's deep into the BSA case from all angles. I'll ask what he thinks.
  9. From a friend of mine. (Sorry for the large font!) “Whoa! This is new and significant...” https://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-359--560927--,00.html
  10. How remote is the chance of getting the Annual Charter Agreement for the 1970's?
  11. What do you mean by this? Some are sexual abuse and others not and/or some more severe than others. I'm just asking not poking.
  12. I can't say for sure, but I have seen other statements like that. Personally and from experience, I take that to mean what you have heard me and a few other men say in this thread and others (YPT, "psycho-babble, etc.) The claim process and waiting game that started February 18, 2020 has been incredible difficult for many if not most of us. It has rekindled dark memories and has dragged many of us down. If I didn't mention it, I ended up in the ER with chest pains at one point. Thankfully, not another heart attack. For many of us, it has been absolutely brutal, reminiscent of the abuse. I am b
  13. Is what follows this paragraph quoted from the book? If so, may I have a citation, please?
  14. So, if BSA or an LC has knowledge of abuse, is it their duty to advise the CO? I’ve learned here that the COs have a much more active role and measure of oversight than I ever saw with ours. Is it imputed, regardless their actual knowledge or involvement?
  15. I'm relatively new to the BSA CSA litigation arena and will further expose my ignorance. Of the cases that have been brought and resolved, whether award or settlement, were all, some or none of them Doe v. both BSA and LC as jointly and severally liable parties?
  16. So, the SE manages the DEs. What are the layers of management overseeing the SEs?
  17. What do you mean by this, since I’m not familiar with the historic BSA model? Many boards have pay to play seats. Is that not typically done throughout Scouting to attract high-level donors?
  18. So, a question for any and all. It seems we mostly discuss abusers as BSA volunteers of one sort or another. Hypothetically, does your view, opinion or feeling change if the abuser was a DE or SE? Technically and legally, it's of no great impact. I'm asking about your perspective of abuse by an Executive from your vantage point as volunteer and/or parent Scouters. You could speak to liability or whatever you think it relevant. I'm curious and appreciate your thoughts.
  19. I appreciate your kind words. When I read this, as quoted, it is painful. Not so much for me but for our boys. I was in such a bad way after our oldest asked me to join Scouts that it combined with another event to set off a train wreck lasting 20 years. I know survivors who watch this forum who were able to stand with their kids through Scouting and see them get all the benefits and none of the horrors or downsides. My boys have paid a very dear price for my condition. So it goes. We KBO, as Winston would say.
  20. Before you got to this sentence, 2 bucks came immediately into my little brain. I joined in 1972. Might have been less. For all I know, and I wouldn't put it past him, our SM was skimming the extra coin for the beer fund.
  21. My wife will be pleased to know her work and my effort to compare it to the BSA context paid a dividend. I'm going to take some of the credit for the movement in thinking, even if I don't deserve it.
  22. The existence of repeated, mirror image suits over a course of 100 years is a sign of "malpractice." That hospital would be out of business looong ago and doctors, and likely executives, locked up. My wife's job is to "stop the malpractice," create systems that something doesn't happen again, and very, very carefully examining every aspect of what happened, who "touched" the patient or associate or public interface. That analysis literally happens and is escalated to her and the chief medical officer close to real time. If it's significant, I'm talking about a call at 3AM. If you could see the
  23. Apologies to Qwaze. I'm sorry for reacting and not taking a deep breath and a closer look.
  24. Watching my wife in her role as the risk executive for a hospital system, I think there is a critical difference. Claims, suits, settlements and judgements against any system, even one that is vast like hers, have a smattering of varied types of claims. There isn't a clear pattern of one significant type of alleged "negligence/malpractice" year after year. Here, we have a singular type injury, reported within a single organization, repeated over and over and over and over again. The two are not comparative nor can one genuinely set the contexts side by side, whether with hospitals or society a
  25. It's unfortunate this offensive argument is being recycled. As I've said before, it's mind boggling to have this burden and liability placed on my 11 year old self. Mystery solved. I feel so much better knowing I am the one to blame for my continued abuse and that of others abused after me by our perverse Scoutmaster. Does this really make sense to anyone else. Really? I and/or my parents were equally responsible and now liable alongside the DE later SE who knew there was grooming behavior going on in our Troop? I was supervising the other 11-13 year olds...? Really?
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