mrjohns2

13 hours ago, SPG said:

It does state that mentor pins are "non-uniform wear" which I interpret as being approved to be worn without the uniform since some recipients are not scouters. 

Oh, god. Non-uniform wear means not to be worn on the uniform. 

22 hours ago, SPG said:

I think those pins would be much more meaningful to our adults than a knot.

You don’t plan on having them wear the eagle mentor pins on their uniforms, do you? 

48 minutes ago, Alec27 said:

As a parent, he has a member ID?  Does that make him a "registered member"?

Every person in the db has a number. 
 

To be registered, one needs to fill out an application, sign a background check auth, do youth protection, pay $45, and get the ok from your COR. 
 

Big difference, no change in number. 

I don’t think it exists. 

Good citizen. 

14 hours ago, mrjohns2 said:

I didn't know they were public facing. From what I heard is that a couple of councils participated in an official test of online ILST and it was determiuned that wouldn't be an option going forward. 

Sorry. I confused it with IOLS. The online ILST wasn’t that great, IMHO. The Scouts would benefit from older Scouts presenting. 

31 minutes ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

Anyone know why they took it off the catalog??

I didn't know they were public facing. From what I heard is that a couple of councils participated in an official test of online ILST and it was determiuned that wouldn't be an option going forward. 

5 hours ago, HashTagScouts said:

I've always been given impression from our Council that it is for an actual recruitment event, but at no point should it involve an overnighter.

I have never heard an exclusion. 
 

the wording in national is pretty clear. They could have easily said no overnights. 🙂

https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss10/

@MattR Great balanced approach. 

11 hours ago, jcousino said:

 

You have a good heart, but do you understand the risks involved with having an unregistered youth on trips?

 

Those risks are covered by BSA insurance as long as a health form and permission slip are covered. The insurance clearly covers non registered youth who are being recruited to join. 

I commend your ability to hold the line. Even if they "just" paid the $4/Scout (or parent), they still haven't paid the dues and everything else that made the year possible. Should you get blow back? They aren't in the right, but I am not surprised that the "good 'o boy's club" will cause issues. If he is the "go to range guy" he should know this isn't free. Money is part of all of it - be it from the family or fund raisers. If it was my family? I'd say "we are back, it has been a long time, how much to even up for us to get back in the good?" That is what an adult would do. If you said $200, then they shouldn't bat an eye and pay. 

18 hours ago, SiouxRanger said:

Give the child credit and adjust (fudge all other numbers). 

I agree. If we were talking a year or 2, no. 3 months? Don't punish the Scout, give them credit, nothing to see here, everyone moves along. 🙂

10 hours ago, Alec27 said:

is there any way to record advancements in SB for the work he's done in the troop while being a non-registered youth.

How long back are we talking?

2 hours ago, 5thGenTexan said:

If its not on that list, they won't match.

We created a 501c3 a couple of years ago. We are about as small as you can get with <$200 of expenses and no donations for the first year or 2. When a volunteer’s employer checked recently, we were on the list! That was our first real donation. It does have to be a registered 501c3. Many churches aren’t since they are exempt from the paperwork if they are a member of a larger denomination that is. So, the larger denomination would be in the list, but not the unit. 

The app is only for scouts and parents. The real power is through the website as a “web app”. 

5 hours ago, RichardB said:

When was the last time you took BALOO or even read the instructor syllabus that was posted?

I took it and read it in 2020.

53 minutes ago, RichardB said:

Cub Packs or Webelos / AOL Dens can organize Overnight activities, at council designated locations, with a BALOO trained leader.  This is neither a new nor changed age appropriate requirement.  

It is much clearer, to me, since what do you call 2 overnights? Not sure. Overnight is the opposite of not staying just the day, to me. It doesn’t mean singular, to me. 
 

It clearly says camping. Does that mean a tent? What about 2 nights in a council cabin? Our council cabins are booked solid from September - March with Cub Scout packs doing 2 “overnights”. 

25 minutes ago, Tired_Eagle_Feathers said:

If you know, you know.  If you don't, you won't.

Dude, not helpful. 

1 hour ago, Eagle1993 said:

The $0 MBC was really about not charging the local weatherman or pilot who would like to volunteer to be a MBC. 

Exactly. Anyone complaining is just sad their corporate loophole doesn't exist anymore.  Everyone is right, this is about money. But units weren't using the "free" membership as intended. Ok?

10 hours ago, curious_scouter said:

We've made a habit of having the last outing they attend have some kind of going away party and some aspect focused on their favorite part of scouting. 

This is awesome that you did it on a campout; not a Court of Honor. 

20 hours ago, DuctTape said:

One possibility is to have some sort of "invitation to become an ASM". 

I like that idea. Like a cross over from AOL. 

30 minutes ago, HashTagScouts said:

I had actually interpreted the prior guidelines on 21+ female adults the way it is written now- once they made 18-20 year old males non-compliant for two-deep, my minded just drawn the dotted line in regards to the same for females I guess.

I had always read it as “all events require 2 registered adults, 21 years or older, if any females less than 21 present, one of the 2 must be female”. I guess since we are a troop and pack, we never had a 18-21 year old participant to worry about. 

Our troop, following in the footsteps of my youth troop, have a family campout each year. This is useful in many ways. It allows parents in new families to spend quality time with the troop adults. It also is a great answer for people who want to bring a sibling on other campouts - “sorry, but they can come on the annual family campout”. I guess we can’t do that any longer?

4 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

Can anyone out there tell me what BSA General Liability Insurance provides for you that a personal umbrella policy does not?

A big thing for me is that I am the policy holder and not the BSA. 🙂