Eagle1993

I wonder if the expert who claimed it was fully funded is financially culpable if he was this far off. The entire trail was decided based on his analysis.

Looking back in time, BSA knew they were losing the Church of Latter Day Saints and likely felt adding girls would be the best bet to cushion that blow (and the LDS objections would hold no weight). I doubt her pressure did much, that said, it is impressive when youth push for a cause, so I wouldn't take anything away from her.

My son and another scout in our Troop just received theirs. Donald J Trump signature was present. Councils will have a bit of catch-up work to get through the backlog.

Latest from FB: We received the following message from National this week: “Beginning this week, Scouting America Outfitters will start shipping Eagle credentials to local councils. The initial shipment will include 1,000 sets, and starting next week, they will increase to 3,000 sets per week. Based on this schedule, it will take just over four weeks to clear the current backlog. Please note that these credentials will not include the president’s signature at this time. While we remain optimistic that approval from the White House will be granted, we recognize that we can no longer delay distribution.”

I disagree fully. I've submitted over 20 Eagle scout applications over the last 6+ years. The only time I saw a delay close to this was mid 2020 due to Covid, but that wasn't this long. It's been 14 weeks since I submitted two scouts and no certs. We already received the letters. Rumor is that they may just skip the President's signature if it takes too long to get approval... They are approaching that timeline. Hopefully certificates can be mailed soon.

Stop the Lion and Tiger program. My feeder pack has 95 scouts now, only 1 AOL crossover. Kids and parents burn out after 5 years of Cub Scouting. Our Troop went from 83 to 17 and after next year likely less than 10. Covid and Lion parent burnout hit Cub Scout transfers over the last 5 years. Most kids join Scouts BSA as Cub Scout transfers, so see if you can get a Wolf to AOL pack started.

Sent on behalf of Alison Schuler, Chair of the Bankruptcy Task Force and National Executive Board Member, and Joseph Zirkman, Executive Vice President and General Counsel of Scouting America. Today, the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit dismissed the widest ranging appeals of the Bankruptcy Court’s plan confirmation order, which were filed by a small group of dissenting claimants and holdout insurance companies. The Court’s decision is a resounding victory for survivors of historical abuse in Scouting, and it is the culmination of more than five years of tireless efforts by survivors, Scouting America, Local Councils, Chartered Organizations, settling insurance companies, and other stakeholders to equitably compensate survivors and preserve the mission of Scouting. By dismissing these appeals, the Court has assured survivors that the Settlement Trust established under BSA’s plan can continue its essential work of providing financial compensation to survivors. The overall settlement fund for abuse claims is valued at $2.4 billion with the opportunity for additional contributions by numerous other parties, including the BSA’s insurers that have not yet settled. Since it was established in April 2023, the Trust has distributed more than $138 million to approximately 20,000 survivors. Today’s decision ensures that the Trust’s work can continue without interruption. The decision also ensures that the organization can continue its mission of preparing young men and women to become responsible, participating citizens and leaders guided by the Scout Oath and Law. On February 8, 2025, on its 115th anniversary, the organization officially became Scouting America, reflecting its ongoing commitment to welcome every youth and family in America to experience the benefits of Scouting. More than a million young men and women currently participate in Scouting America’s programs, affirming the importance of Scouting and its values-based programs to American life. Yours in Scouting, Alison Schuler Chair of the Bankruptcy Task Force and National Executive Board Member Joseph Zirkman Executive Vice President / General Counsel

7 weeks since my son's Eagle BOR and no word from National. This is breaking the records we saw during Covid....

I wonder if the length of time indicates which way they are leaning.

Perhaps he should become a scout and take Signs, Signals and Codes Merit Badge.

My understanding is that there is always a delay between administrations. If there is an issue with Trump's approval, perhaps this is a good opportunity to move away from the President of the US as the honorary President of Scouting America and have someone else serve in that role. David Montgomery? Mike Rowe? I'm not sure if there is an issue, but it would be interesting to see someone who is actually a former scout and exemplifies scouting ideals as the honorary president vs politicians.

This is from a FB post...

One interesting comparison. GSUSA has slightly more members but only 111 councils.

There is nothing in the bankruptcy settlement that forces council reduction. What was discussed during the bankruptcy was a BSA executive meeting at Philmont in August of 2021. This meeting was focused on BSA post bankruptcy. Devang Desai was on the stand talking about this meeting as insurers went slide by slide. Here were my notes (it was illegal to record the hearing so all I could do was quickly type away). Note that we are now nearly 4 years after that meeting ... so I expect some of this has changed. CO model may need to be replaced Councils are in trouble ... $400M of debt. Goal was to become the National Leader in Youth Safety Grow our Membership by making our program more relevant, easy fun. Fully digital program Make a single scout program (that was confusing to me, but on a slide) Slide showed reduction of councils down to 80 (but that was then marked up and changed with "streamline") Need to change how girls are included Outdoor method was mentioned in a lot of slides Goal of eveyone getting to 1st class Expand recruiting & fundraising Now, this was many years ago, so I expect national may have moved on from that meeting.

In the interview, based on info from former SE of Hiawathaland: - National forced them to merge as they believed small councils cannot succeed They joined Bay Lakes as it was in good shape Bay Lakes has been in decline since (membership & financials) They joined MCC Camp Hiawatha no longer in jeopardy due to scouting council realignment