Eagle1993

That is sad to hear, but not surprised.

I always wondered why we wouldn't look to either 20-30 year old ex scouts or 55+ year old aging scouters to fill District roles (basically avoiding parents of scout aged kids). In my area, most District roles are filled by unit volunteers, burning them out or having them choose between helping their unit or helping the District.

It was a joke, but I updated it so no one's feelings are hurt...

Unless BSA has trained professionals leading every Troop you will see a wide variety of quality. Make sure YPT and G2SS is followed, there should be no exceptions there. Many Troops could improve on the Patrol method, most on uniform. Provide some guidance to the leaders and let them run the show. If there is a really strong, well run Troop in the area, perhaps try and schedule a visit. There has always been quality differences between Troops, it is a tough decision to determine what is good enough.

We should just start selling Eagle scout ranks. Two birds, one stone. We raise a lot of money and take the kids who only care about a patch (especially their parents) out of the program. Heck, for enough money, we can throw a kid in a river, setup your kid in a harness system, have him "save" the other kid and he could earn the heroism award. Hopefully the family can be redirected, otherwise, these are the worst parent(s) to have in the program.

Certain claimants would have been better off if the plan failed. Even assuming National was maxed out (I think there is an argument that the HA base debts were questionable), they could have sued their council, CO and various individuals. Some CO and councils would have had significant assets to take, others almost nothing. So, while some would be better off, others would have been much worse off. The other source is from reinsurers. That was/is expected to provide the backstop if money is out.. but we will see if it works. Im not surprised the settlement is being used up faster than planned, but that could slow over time. BSA financial health is also questionable. Debt is still high, membership is now under their business plan and I'm not sure their raised the capital they thought. I wouldn't be surprised if they are back in bankruptcy in a few years.

The only reason the judge allowed non consenting non debtors (councils, individuals, charter orgs) to be part of the bankruptcy was that the analysis showed all creditors would be paid in full. If that analysis was incorrect, then councils and charter orgs wouldn't have been covered. I think most BSA members and most plaintiffs agreed the deal made was the best possible outcome, but there were plaintiffs that objected.

I wonder if the expert who claimed it was fully funded is financially culpable if he was this far off. The entire trail was decided based on his analysis.

Looking back in time, BSA knew they were losing the Church of Latter Day Saints and likely felt adding girls would be the best bet to cushion that blow (and the LDS objections would hold no weight). I doubt her pressure did much, that said, it is impressive when youth push for a cause, so I wouldn't take anything away from her.

My son and another scout in our Troop just received theirs. Donald J Trump signature was present. Councils will have a bit of catch-up work to get through the backlog.

Latest from FB: We received the following message from National this week: “Beginning this week, Scouting America Outfitters will start shipping Eagle credentials to local councils. The initial shipment will include 1,000 sets, and starting next week, they will increase to 3,000 sets per week. Based on this schedule, it will take just over four weeks to clear the current backlog. Please note that these credentials will not include the president’s signature at this time. While we remain optimistic that approval from the White House will be granted, we recognize that we can no longer delay distribution.”

I disagree fully. I've submitted over 20 Eagle scout applications over the last 6+ years. The only time I saw a delay close to this was mid 2020 due to Covid, but that wasn't this long. It's been 14 weeks since I submitted two scouts and no certs. We already received the letters. Rumor is that they may just skip the President's signature if it takes too long to get approval... They are approaching that timeline. Hopefully certificates can be mailed soon.

Stop the Lion and Tiger program. My feeder pack has 95 scouts now, only 1 AOL crossover. Kids and parents burn out after 5 years of Cub Scouting. Our Troop went from 83 to 17 and after next year likely less than 10. Covid and Lion parent burnout hit Cub Scout transfers over the last 5 years. Most kids join Scouts BSA as Cub Scout transfers, so see if you can get a Wolf to AOL pack started.

Sent on behalf of Alison Schuler, Chair of the Bankruptcy Task Force and National Executive Board Member, and Joseph Zirkman, Executive Vice President and General Counsel of Scouting America. Today, the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit dismissed the widest ranging appeals of the Bankruptcy Court’s plan confirmation order, which were filed by a small group of dissenting claimants and holdout insurance companies. The Court’s decision is a resounding victory for survivors of historical abuse in Scouting, and it is the culmination of more than five years of tireless efforts by survivors, Scouting America, Local Councils, Chartered Organizations, settling insurance companies, and other stakeholders to equitably compensate survivors and preserve the mission of Scouting. By dismissing these appeals, the Court has assured survivors that the Settlement Trust established under BSA’s plan can continue its essential work of providing financial compensation to survivors. The overall settlement fund for abuse claims is valued at $2.4 billion with the opportunity for additional contributions by numerous other parties, including the BSA’s insurers that have not yet settled. Since it was established in April 2023, the Trust has distributed more than $138 million to approximately 20,000 survivors. Today’s decision ensures that the Trust’s work can continue without interruption. The decision also ensures that the organization can continue its mission of preparing young men and women to become responsible, participating citizens and leaders guided by the Scout Oath and Law. On February 8, 2025, on its 115th anniversary, the organization officially became Scouting America, reflecting its ongoing commitment to welcome every youth and family in America to experience the benefits of Scouting. More than a million young men and women currently participate in Scouting America’s programs, affirming the importance of Scouting and its values-based programs to American life. Yours in Scouting, Alison Schuler Chair of the Bankruptcy Task Force and National Executive Board Member Joseph Zirkman Executive Vice President / General Counsel

7 weeks since my son's Eagle BOR and no word from National. This is breaking the records we saw during Covid....