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Many boys that are in band at school have no choice to miss scout meetings, because band events are a grade. Some of them sure, could be avoided. But sports are by choice. I think the boys are looking for a place to fit in and feel that sense of belonging.

I agree with Liz on this one also. The scout law is our pledge to be physically strong. It doesn't necessary say physically fit. I think there are scouter out there that might be overweight, but are physically fit enough to do the same outdoor stuff. It really depends on the person, and everyone's body is different. So not everybody is going to be thin, but at least we are striving to be strong.

I think just because there may be females around, that doesn't mean that all guys have to watch how they are. I mean, it's still a boy scout campout, and the females don't change that. They were the ones that decided to be there. Therefore, they are choosing to be one of the guys. They shouldn't be treated any different, unless it's like sleeping issues. But volenteers and good staffers are needed, and everyone is just as capabile to be a great asset in the scouting program.

Or maybe you can get a jeopardy board going, if weather is bad, and have different catagories with all types of scouting knowledge. Like uses for knots, maybe worst case weather scenarios, proper ways for handling wood tools, etc. That might be a fun game for them to interact and gain some knowledge.

You could do something fun like tent races. Have them competing in who can set up their tent the fastest. Or if you go with the fire starting competition, make it more challenging. Sometimes you'll have to build a fire after it rains. And don't give them matches or lighters. Use a flint only to start a spark.

Ha. That response gave me a laugh!!!

Actually, we have our own leaders division. We will be getting judged on the speed, but also there is an award for show. Thank you for all of your help and I'll let you know how it goes this weekend!!!

I will definately be praying for your son and your family. I had an 8 year old friend that had cancer also. Keep strong in the lord and turn it into something positive. God Bless!

Hello! Nice to meet you and welcome to the forum. I see you are from the Blackhawk Area Council. I went to that summer camp this past year. Nice place.

Okay, I am actually part of the boy scouts, but our cub scout pack invited our troop and leaders to participate in the derby. I have never built a car before and I am kinda on my own. I only have til friday to finish. SO here are my questions: Do you have to prime the car before you paint it? You glue weights on it after you paint, right? The wheels go last? I just want to be sure I am doing everything right. Right now I already sawed into my shape, and I am sanding at the moment. Any advice???

I meant besides venturing and OA.

Do any of you find it odd that an 18 yr old ASM is considered an adult within the scouting program, but then would be denied access to the OA because then she would be a youth? Some of you have mentioned the fact that there are no facilities to accomidate youth females. But technically, in the boy scouts of america, once you are 18 you are an adult. So would it be such a big deal to share those female facilities with the 18-20 yr olds. Because normally, they are considered adult women through BSA and in the country, just not in the OA. I am not trying to create arguments, I am trying to unders

So what are your opinions then about allowing all BSA registered leaders join the OA reguardless of sex or age? For example, many of you were talking about the possibility of females from venturing crews, but what about female boy scouts leaders between the age of 18-20? Because then, they would be considered youth in the OA. It is true that those females cannot be a part of the OA before they are 21?

Is it also true that venturers can be part of the OA? I might of heard some rumors about men and women from a venture crew in the OA as youth?

Sorry I actually already typed this in another section, but I thought it might get answered if I started its own thread. Thanks in advance! I have a question for all you guys in the OA. I am not in it yet, but I had a question reguarding being in it. I heard that with the OA you are a youth member until you are 21. So I was wondering, do the females that get into the OA have to have the same requirements as well as the guys? For example, can a female leader from a boyscout troop who is between the age of 18-20 be in the OA? Because technically that would make them a youth in the OA but a

I have a question for all you guys in the OA. I am not in it yet, but I had a question reguarding being in it. I heard that with the OA you are a youth member until you are 21. So I was wondering, do the females that get into the OA have to have the same requirements as well as the guys? For example, can a female leader from a boyscout troop who is between the age of 18-20 be in the OA? Because technically that would make them a youth in the OA but a leader for boy scouts? I was just curious on how that process works. And also, do adults in the OA get selected the same as the boys do? Thanks.

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Make sure all of you have a good mummy bag. If you don't have a 20 degree or anything better sleeping bag, your trip will be miserable. Make sure the boys are warm before they get into their sleeping bag. Like take them for a small hike before going to bed. If they get into their sleeping bags cold, they will stay cold.

Do you guys know if they are still accepting applications for youth or adult staff? I wasn't sure because the website didn't say. And how much would you have to pay total to go there on staff? Thanks!

I think DeanRx makes an excellent point! I agree with that completely. I do think that in SOME cases gender does possibly play a role. But I think that it depends on the troop itself and how the people in it view the role of women. In most cases, the issue is their leadership only. But in others, they do possibly have to work a little harder just to show that they have the same leadership quality and skills to offer.

I think that some of the challenges of women is them getting viewed different then the men. Not in all cases of course. But more than often they have to work harder to prove to everyone that they can do the same stuff that the guys can do. They are often viewed as not knowing as much or not capable. But obviously women have proved that wrong. In general, I think sometimes they just have to work harder to show what they can bring to the table. By normally, they get the same respect as the adult male leaders do.

I think that some people are just too judgemental. I think people should be able to tell the difference between someone actually being there for the right reasons or not. And if at all concerned, talk to them about it. Yes, I don't think that some of you that have posted should be labeled as creepy, but I also think that women shouldn't get discriminated about it either. I think it goes both ways and they should be treated as equals. Otherwise, it seems that many are being sexist. Overall, people now of days are too judging and don't even know the person before they make assumptions.

I think that in some cases, without those adults whose sons were already gone, the troop would not exsist. If certain parents fail to get involved, you need people to step up. Some adults just love the program and the ideals that it is instilling in the boys. Why wouldn't an adult want to be apart of a great program? The parents who stick around even after their son is gone has experience with the troop and has already created friendships within the unit. I see no creepiness about that. And women leaders should get the same credit as the guys do. Just because the program is for boys doesn't me

Hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone has ever went to Scouting University, which is a day of classes that offer training events for adults. It is being offered through our council, and I wasn't sure if other councils do it as well. If so, what was your experience like? Did you learn from the classes? Thanks in advance for the thoughts.

I think just because someone is 18 doesn't mean they are not capable of handling a leadership position. The assistant role is a good experience for them to grow into a leader when they turn 21. It will give him the opportunity to be in charge, but not have all the responsibilites on his hands alone. Coming from boyscouts he should have experience running a troop (like Senior Patrol Leader, etc.), but now he can get new experince being in-charge as an adult and viewing the changes and similarites between the two. I would just recommend that he is fully willing to take the time to be a good lead