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The troop committee challenge, the leader specific training for troop committee members, is best given to the committee at one time, not to a member here and another there. You may suggest that your committee work with the district training committee to set up a special challenge just for your troop committee. SWScouter

Cool, so far eleven responses and not a one is a response to the original post. What a statement that is!

molscouter, It would be nice if what you say is true, especially since I have been a part of Cub Roundtable Staff and could apply that to the Scouter's training award. I don't know if I can though, at least for the CS knots. Each of the five CS awards, state: Dates of service used to earn this award cannot be used to earn another key or award. To me, that seems fairly explicit. There does seem room though, for example to work on multiple Scouter's training awards at a time though. I really have no idea what the real policy is on this though. Anybody? SWScouter

madkins007, interesting discussion about the disparity in district approval between CS knots and BS knots. I never would have guessed. That does seem to be an implementation problem in your district (perhaps in others too). Yes, for the third knot a SM can earn I was meaning the SM Award of Merit. This is a bit different isn't it. The SM needs to be nominated by the PLC/committee, yet he/she still needs to earn it (maybe qualify is a better term here). I haven't concerned myself with the BS knots yet so I really can't comment too much on if they're more work or not. Looking at the re

Sure, there's nothing that says that a 5th grade boy can't joing Cub Scouts just because he is eleven. Yes, he's eligible to join Boy Scouts but if he wants to join Cub Scouts because that's where his friends are, that's fine. SWSCouter

madkins007, I would compare the Scouter's Training Award to the Cub Scouter Award, not the Cubmaster Award. I think they are more equivalent and cover any position in their respective unit. I think you need to compare the Cubmaster Award to the Scouter's Key, these awards can only be earned by Cubmasters and Scoutmasters (for troops) respectively. BS leaders can earn up to 2 knots for positions served in a unit- both requiring some district or council participation. Actually, BS Scouters can only earn one knot, except for SMs that can earn three. Not sure what "district or council pa

Wait until you see the "time in grade" needed for scouter ribbons. Three years per knot is pretty much the norm. Okay, let's compare "Cub" Scouter knots to "Boy" scouter knots. Cub Scouter Award takes two years tenure as does the Scouter's Training Award. I consider these two fairly equivalent. Scouter's Key takes three years, however, tenure can be combined with Scouter's Training Award. So three years for a SM to get both. It's equivalent for "Cub" scouters is the Cubmaster Award, which has two years tenure that cannot be combined with the Cub Scouter Award. So, it takes a Cub

John-in-KC, There is at least one more. Req. 8 for the Webelos badge has wording very similar to what you quote for Bear. SWScouter

Greying Beaver wrote, "First - Knots. What puts me into a low simmer for a short time is cub scout leaders with their two rows of tiger and cub scout leader knots. I wear my ribbons and WB beads with pride, but when the parent of a boy just entering the troop after bridging shows up with all those ribbons, yes, I see a dedicated scouter - in need of a lot more training. Guess who doesn't want to go to any boy scout-level training? Bingo. And guess who wants to know what those beads around my neck are for? Bingo." Wow, I guess Greying Beaver put me in a slow simmer, that must be why I deci

Hi, I was presented my wood badge beads tonight at the district roundtable. It feels great to finally be able to wear these symbols of scouting I have been working on earning. It doesn't seem like it's been over a year since I attended the course. Time sure seems to fly by. When I reflect on the course and what I've gained from it, I'm still awed by the dedication, preparation, and enthusiasm of the staff of W4-10-04. They are awesome! I used to be an Eagle, SWScouter

wahoonfp wrote, My biggest challenge of running AAD is going to be actually GETTING the medals at the end. Took months to get our twins Light of Christ last year, and there were communications breakdowns all over the place. Is this a problem for anyone else around? I haven't had that problem at all. In fact, I've had great response. This past year, I first faxed in the forms for Parvuli Dei and Light of Christ so they could get the paperwork started, then when they received the forms and payment, they immediately mailed me the medals. The whole process took about a week. I did the same th

Well, this thread started out fairly interesting but it has degraded to being a bunch of drivel. Perhaps we all can get back on topic or perhaps a moderator can lock this thread.

First, just a couple points of clarification. Dan, in depth does not necessarily mean deep. For example, replacing over your head in depth with over 8' in depth, may make the statement more understandable to you. Msnowman wrote, But in my head I always figured that the water was meant to be deep enough for you to be able to into feet first safely...without hitting bottom quickly and getting hurt.....9 feet was always my mental number. How does one jump safely (even feet first) into water that is just barely over their heads?. It is actually quite safe to jump into water that is

That is not what a boy led troop is. Planning campouts that are all "car camping" with no planned activities is not what scouting is about and it certainly doesn't take much leadership. If you can, take a look at the Scoutmaster's Handbook. Pay particular attention to the sections on boy lead troops, project planning, and training boys. Those chapters should make it painfully obvious that that is not what is meant by a boy lead troop. SWScouter(This message has been edited by SWScouter)

Is it standard procedure to take an 11-yo mountain climbing to 9,000 ft or more? I'm not sure why you assume they were mountain climbing. From the article, they were in the Ruby Mountains of Nevada doing a 50 miler. I know that here in AZ, I can (and do) go camp in the White Mts. at 9000 ft and look out at a herd of elk browsing on the rolling hills, no shear cliffs in sight. I see no reason why the Ruby Mts. would be any different. I don't mean to sound rude, but here in the Rocky Mt. states, the land is just higher to start with. SWScouter

Tucker, At this time, I would have your boy where a one year service star with a yellow background for Cub Scouts and a one year service star with a green background for Boy Scouts. SWScouter

As a WL for a den crossing over next February, this topic is of interest to me. The pack I volunteer for is chartered by a Catholic church. The church also charters a troop. There are five boys in the den, four are Catholic and the fifth is of a christion faith. My plan at this time is for the den to visit the troop chartered to the same church and another troop also chartered by a Catholic church. I also will visit any other troop a parent suggests we visit. My thoughts on what the boys will end up doing is: They will all cross over to the same troop. One may not continue but if he does,

I'm not a powderhorn graduate, but sometimes, I'm out there.

I'm not a powderhorn graduate, but sometimes, I'm out there.

Here's another article from the Arizona Republic: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0726latinoscouts26.html Boy Scouts' focus is on Latino recruiting Betty Reid The Arizona Republic Jul. 26, 2005 12:00 AM When it comes to recruiting Arizona's fastest growing population group, Arizona's Boy Scouts simply haven't been prepared. But like good troop leaders, Boy Scouts of America officials assessed their situation and are trying to adapt with a marketing campaign aimed at beefing up Hispanic membership to better reflect the state. "If you look at the demographic

Cubmaster-Fred, I asked a similar question here about boosting attendence at a Cub Roundtable breakout session. You may find some of the responses helpful. http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=86092 Good luck, SWScouter

I see no reason why a motivated boy can't achieve the Star rank at the age of eleven, especially if he joined before he turned eleven because he earned Arrow of Light as a Cub Scout. SFMike's son may be the exception on earning Eagle but I see no reason to assume he is lying. A scout is trustworthy isn't he? SWScouter

I found this interesting to read since I am acquanted with one of the people in the article and am familiar with the area. The article did bring up one of the big issues with recruiting hispanics into scouting and that is the impression that scouting is for wealthy families. This may sound strange but it really is part of the hispanic culture. One of my Woodbadge patrol members is married to a hispanic woman and he was telling us about this issue during the course. It really is perplexing and I'm not sure what the best approach is to overcome such a strong cultural perspective. SWScouter

Hi Duck7, I'm a Webelos Den Leader. One of the requirments for the Arrow of Light, is for a Webelos Scout to earn the Readyman activity badge. What does that have to do with you, you may ask? Well, I'm tossing around the idea of having the troop organize and plan a workshop where the Webelos scouts in the Pack can earn the Readyman activity badge. You could do something similar for a local pack. It would take a lot of organising and you would need several other scouts to help, but I think it would be a great project that should definitely qualify for your rank requirement. Good

Well, I'm going to throw my four cents in since it was my post that spurred ASM59 to spin this thread. Right now, I'm a Webelos Den Leader for my son's den. We recently started the second year of Webelos. I have been the den leader starting the Wolf year. I have no experience working as a leader for Boy Scouts. I try really hard not to be harder or easier on my son compared to how I treat the rest of the boys in the den. Somtimes it's tough though. I've talked to my son several times about it. He understands that I need to treat all the boys equally and, I think, is fine with it and