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  1. I'll readily admit that the president's children are in more danger than the general public and deserving of protection. That being said, did the parent's of the dead Sandy Hook children not love or care for their children as much as the president does his? Should our children receive a lesser amount of protection simply because they are the general public? If Sandy Hook proves anything, it proves that the general public can be at just as high of a risk as a public official. Would someone target the president's children because he is president? Of course. Did the Sandy Hook shooter shoot
  2. "One of da most fascinating issues to me is that da lobbyists have succeeded in getting Congress to outlaw both data collection and research on gun safety." So lobbyists get congressmen to write and PASS legislation in both houses that can't go into law without the president's signature, correct? I'm curious, how long have the Republicans held the house? How about the senate? Who is president? Why weren't they doing their job?
  3. "Until the NRA and gun owners understand that guns are part of the real problem and that guns have got to be part of the discussion, then we aren't going to really get anywhere." And just who sets the gold standard in gun safety training in America? http://training.nra.org/ Training Department From beginner to developing competitor, the NRA Training Department develops safe, ethical, responsible shooters through a network of more than 93,000 instructors and range safety officers, more than 5,200 coaches, and more than 1,700 training counselors. NRA Training Counselors recruit
  4. Beavah, the anti-gun lobby and the liberal politicians they write legislation for are the ones who defined what an assualt weapon was, and it was all based on appearance. I own a single shotgun that I bought 30 years ago to hunt with. It probably has not been fired in 20 years. That being said, my house is full of "assault" weapons. The kitchen has an array of exremely sharp knives of all sizes. My garage......I can't even begin to list the things in there that can be used to assualt someone with. Hammers, wrenches, pipes, etc. And then there are my sons old baseball bats from when he p
  5. Let's revise the scenario a little. A big student at the middle school is overcome by hormones and anger about something and in the middle of the day, she pulls a knife and starts screaming and making verbal threats at everyone around her. The coach, the custodian, the assistant principal, and one of the nearby teachers surround her at a distance to prevent her from hurting any students before the police can arrive in about 10 minutes. The assistant principal is scared to death to the point of shaking. The kid is so angry she doesn't care about her own life and decides to charge right at
  6. It's called an analogy and it is fairly accurate. People unfamiliar with guns want to ban ones that have an assault weapon appearance. Kind of like banning people based on their appearance (color), it's a stupid idea by narrow minded people.
  7. Yeahhhh.....it isn't my party. I'm libertarian. I just understand their message and the constitution. Look, I'm a charitable person. But I like choosing my charitable actions. I don't like being forced by the government to hand over money to pay for things I wouldn't normally give my time or money to. And no, I'm not talking roads and bridges here. While I like to help people and appreciate people helping me, I understand that when push come to shove, I only have ME to rely on. I need to look out for me and I need to be prepared. That is taking personal responsibility. It isn't, I go
  8. Moose, I challenge you to provide us with a quote (in context) from a Republican saying, "you're on your own". Are you mistaking "taking personal responsibility" with you're on your own? Those are two different things. As far as finding a message that is acceptable to current society, that will be hard when the other party woos voters with a "free" cradle to grave care program. Many people will take the easy route everytime only to find a cliff around the next bend. Think Greece. All of these entitlement programs actually come with a real hard dollar cost. Eventually, the bill comes
  9. How about just saying, "the recharter deadline is here and we can't recharter until YOU take YPT. In order to keep the charter alive, I need you to take it ASAP and let me know so I can turn in the paperwork"?
  10. An interesting read on the purpose of the 2nd amendment. http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/336529 Regulating the Militia By Kevin D. Williamson December 28, 2012 4:00 A.M. My friend Brett Joshpe has published an uncharacteristically soft-headed piece in the San Francisco Chronicle arguing that in the wake of the massacre at Sandy Hook, conservatives and Republicans should support what he calls sensible gun-control laws. It begins with a subtext of self-congratulation (As a conservative and a Republican, I can no longer remain silent . . . Some will consider it
  11. scoutingagain: "Well why bother with armed police or specially trained teachers in classrooms. Let' s simply train children about guns and let them defend themselves. If 14 year old can carry, should 12 year old? What would be the recommended cut off age for children to carry in school? If any?" I challenge you to show where I suggested children carry guns. Do you as a scouter teach children how to responsibly build a fire and maintain it without burning down a forest? Do you not think fire can be deadly? Do you not teach children how to cook where a pot of boiling water can be knocked
  12. Well it depends on whether children are taught about guns or not doesn't it? I had a conversation with my sister-in-law this weekend who is unhappy that her 13 year old son has a pocket knife. It scares her to death. He might get hurt. It worries me a little too, because he isn't in scouts and he hasn't learned how to handle, care for or respect a knife like a 7 year old Cub Scout does. Pack, for every horror story you can produce with guns, a story of how they were used to defend someone can be produced. While guns can be used for offense, they can equally be used for defense. Educ
  13. Pack, here is the flipside of that coin. Crap happens. Be prepared. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix-teen-shoots-intruder/55782484/1 14-year-old Phoenix boy shoots, nearly kills armed intruder Updated 6/23/2012 4:27 PM PHOENIX (AP) A 14-year-old boy shot and nearly killed an intruder who broke into his Phoenix home and pulled a gun on him while he was watching his three younger siblings, police said Saturday. The teen and his siblings, ages 8, 10 and 12, were at home alone when a woman rang the doorbell Friday afternoon, Phoenix p
  14. Threads are conversations and over time, the subject changes. Besides, there are multiple gun control threads running. The right to vote is NOT in the constitution. Voter qualifications are left to the states to determine. What is in the constitution are what you may not exclude within the population you do grant the right to vote. If states wanted to say as they once did that only property owners could vote, they could do that. But it would be black, white, red, brown, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, male, female, etc. property owners because the amendments say you can not deny a person the r
  15. So as I said, amendments spell out what you can not use to limit who can vote. If the constitution guaranteed the right to vote, you wouldn't need amendments that say what parameters can not be considered for exclusion. There was a time in our history where only male land owners had the right to vote. Voting qualifications are actually left to the states except for the federal civil rights covered in the amendments saying you can't exclude based on race, gender, etc. States could exclude the vote based on other parameters if desired. That being said, states have been trying to pass voter
  16. I've lived in Oklahoma for 55 years. I've seen my share of tornados in that time. The biggest, baddest tornado of all came within a few blocks of my house back on May 3rd, 1999. That being said, the likelihood that your house is actually going to be destroyed by a tornado is statistically small. That doesn't stop people from "being prepared" and building storm shelters. Gun ownership doesn't really matter if you live in a high crime inner city or a low crime suburb, some people just like "being prepared" for something that "could" happen, but probably never will. What was it Baden Po
  17. FScouter: "Only the gun folks talk about this. Why is that?" Really? A simple Google search proves differntly. For instance, http://www.banhandgunsnow.org/
  18. Beavah: "He ran on a platform of mild tax increases on top earners. In other words, raisin' taxes by a tiny amount on a tiny group of people, to a level that's still da lowest in the last 80 years when yeh figure in da capital gains rate reductions. That's not an extreme position. It's really quite a conservative one." No, no it's not. It's an extreme position. If we replaced the word "wealthy" with Jew or black, I don't think the Democrats would be so hep on singling them out for special treatment. Taking something away from someone simply because they have more than someone else
  19. Twocub, Could you point me to the place in the constitution where the right to vote is guaranteed? I know there are folks who admit that while the right isn't spelled out, it is implied. What I recall is that amendments have been added that state what you can not do to restrict voting, such as race and gender. But there is no right to vote enumerated in the constitution. Other than civil rights at the federal level, the states determine voting rights as all votes other than the vote for President is at the state level or lower.
  20. Given that Obama won't hardly rub elbows with the leadership of his own party, I'd have to say he probably isn't hyperpartisan. Narcissistic on the other hand..........
  21. Fehler, You are fortunate in that you have never seen or experienced evil. How, I do not know. I have. It exists.
  22. Evil exists. We don't see it all that often, but it does exist. Guns are not the problem. Guns are merely a tool. I live in Oklahoma City. I was sitting at my desk about 6 blocks away from the Murrah Building when McVeigh blew it up. My wife's office was even closer. McVeigh didn't need a gun to murder 168 people. Evil isn't on a time table. Evil can act swiftly or take its time making plans. Gun control laws will not stop shootings in public places. Having guards in schools probably won't stop shootings, but they do provide a measure of safety far greater than throwing your arms up
  23. This should give everyone pause. http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/ 'Everyone in US under virtual surveillance' - NSA whistleblower' The FBI records the emails of nearly all US citizens, including members of congress, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. In an interview with RT, he warned that the government can use this information against anyone. Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violation
  24. Until the end of the month, I'll have been a Chapter Adviser for the last 3 years. Beginning in January, I'm an Associate Lodge Adviser. I can't recall ever seeing any of our youth leadership at the Chapter or Lodge level wearing silver.
  25. You recruit, recruit, recruit. You invite Webelos to go camping with you and you pay attention to them and make them feel welcome. The first troop my son joined (a troop I didn't want him to join, but let him decide) was not welcoming at all. They were an older troop of mostly older boys who really didn't want their boat rocked. They liked their little group. There were 5 boys and their parents who all joined along with us. It lasted 6 months before there was a falling out. We left there and joined another troop where my son earned his Eagle and attended until the day he turned 18 and w
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