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  1. From the BSA New-Unit Application - "The chartered organization selects one of its members to register as chartered organization representative who may also serve as chair or as unit committee member if needed. All units must have a unit leader and a minimum of five paid youth. There must be at least three committee members, with one named chair. Packs must have a den leader/Webelos den leader/Tiger Cub leader who should be registered as an adult in the pack. The chartered organization also provides meeting facilities for the unit. No one may register in more than one position in the sam
  2. No, a COR can not be registered as both COR and SM. A valid charter requires 2 separate individuals registered as SM and COR.
  3. When my son's Troop did Winter camping, son would typically use the same set up he used in any hike-in campout. That included a flat, closed cell, sleeping pad, and a foam pad topper. When he had more room in the tent he would pack his twin size air mattress, with battery operated pump. It rolled up into a fairly small size and did not take much more room in his pack (an old army bag) than his sleeping mats. He did not use his air mattress for Winter camping.
  4. Just as an aside - part of what Nike was trying to make a point on was that there is no such organization as GSA - just as there is no such organization as BSUSA. The organizations are Girl Scouts of the United States of America (GSUSA), and Boy Scouts of America (BSA). Using the correct terminology helps to lend credence to your comments on the program. Comparing GSUSA, and BSA, is also not a very useful thing to do. It is rather like comparing apples, and pineapples. GSUSA Troops are usually very different from one another. They are only as adventurous as their leaders (first), and
  5. If the church, and the IH/COR are still going to have a Troop with the church, there is no way that the church will release the charter to you. The Troop is not disbanding, it is just splitting. It is up to the folks leaving to go out, get a new charter organization, and start a brand new Troop - from scratch - with them. Or, failing that, you can find another Troop that runs a good, boy-led, program, and join them.
  6. Actually, the COR does NOT own the unit. The unit is owned by the Charter Organization. The COR, or - Charter Organization Representative - is the REPRESENTATIVE of the Charter Organization (CO). The COR is an intermediary between the CO, the CO's unit, and the BSA District/Council. The person to talk to about this mess would be the head of the Charter Organization (IH-Institutional Head) itself. If the IH of your CO is backing the COR, than your only recourse is to find a different Troop, or start a new one.
  7. Georgia - As Scouter99 stated -Please do not generalize all of BSA based on your experiences with your own, local, Pack. Yes, there are dysfunctional Packs out there, yours is definitely one of them. But they are NOT following the policies of BSA (hence - dysfunctional). Also, your issues were with bringing younger siblings (boys OR girls) along to a CUB activity. The OP is talking about bringing a younger sibling to a BOY SCOUT activity. Different program, different rules, different policies, horse of a different color, apples/oranges. I think/hope you get the idea.
  8. You want your Scouts to have a say in your District? What does your Charter Organization Representative (COR) do? From BSA National website - "The Boy Scouts of America, in its relationship with chartered organizations, depends on the COR to be the liaison between the local council and the organization. As the representative of the organization, you have the responsibility to share information between the council and the organization and vice versa. In fact, you are a voting member of the district and council. The council is a grassroots organization in that there are more CORs than
  9. Moisture and hot oil are never a good combo. It causes the hot oil to shoot up, and out. Once it goes over the side of the pot, and hits the burner (talking seconds here), you have a giant, flaming, fireball instead of a turkey in a pot!
  10. Yep, traffic cones are to stable to be used as bowling pins. Real bowling pins would be better if you are using a frozen turkey. Gotta say, deep frying a frozen, or even a partially frozen, turkey, is NOT a good idea. Unless, of course, your plan is to actually start a large grease fire and burn down the surrounding woods (not to mention yourself)! Also, it seems like eating a turkey that has been tossed around a frozen lake, or other outside spot, for a number of hours, sounds like a recipe for all sorts of nasty tummy things to happen. After a few hours the packaging will have torn,
  11. Again, tell SM Mom what needs to be completed. Given her/his history there should be no problem with everything being signed off by Tuesday. The rest of the Webelos still have (varying amounts of) time to complete their AOL. However you can only do so much. You can not force them to complete the requirements. Give them all opportunities. Then it is up to them. Unfortunately, it sounds like you have a number of "fudgers", like SM Mom, who will sign off on everything, actually completed or not, just to get their kid his bling. All you can do is your best. Beating your head against this w
  12. This is an LDS program. There are no 10 year old Boy Scouts. They move levels on their birthday. A Cub becomes a Webelos on his 10th birthday. A Webelos becomes a Boy Scout (11- year old program) on his 11th birthday.
  13. None of the boys "have" to earn AOL. They are not - can not - move to Boy Scouts until their 11th birthday, at that point they do not need AOL to join. The one Webelos who is turning 11 next month is the only one who really needs to complete his AOL requirements immediately - if he wants to earn the award before his crossover to Boy Scouts. Is the Boy Scout info portion the only thing he has left to do? Since his AOL requirements have already been "fudged", I see no reason to believe that they will not continue to be so. Contact his mother, and let her know what he has to complete in orde
  14. http://www.macscouter.com/games/index.asp
  15. Read your Webelos Handbook. It is pretty specific on just what "Constructions" are. From pg 119 - Webelos Handbook - Artist - We used to call these "Genius Kits" or "Recycle Kits". They made for a great activity at a Pack meeting! We would give the boys a theme to base their "construction" on. It helps them to visualize what a pile of "junk" can become. Something like - a new invention that had to have a distinct purpose - a space ship - something magic - something that does something - etc. We would get paper grocery bags and put in various "things". Make sure to add s
  16. Something is rather fishy here. BSA is NOT a strictly CHRISTIAN organization. They make a big deal about being open to ALL types of religious organizations. However they DO insist that you - at the very least - believe in SOME SORT of god, or higher power. From the BSA's Declaration of Religious Principal on it's Adult Application - "The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God and, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude
  17. The only way a BSA Council can "remove" a unit's leaders is to take away their BSA membership completely. This is RARELY done, and only when the volunteers have SERIOUSLY crossed the line for membership standards - youth protection, criminal activities, etc. What is your Charter Organization? Are you LDS? The organization that holds your BSA charter, and owns your unit, can "hire", and "fire", it's volunteers at any time, for any (or no) reason. It seems there is a rather messy/involved backstory here. Without a Scoutmaster a Troop can not function well. This one sounds like it is turn
  18. I hope by "rank" you really mean his title/position of PL, and not his BSA rank (2nd Class, 1st Class, Star, etc). Once a BSA rank has been awarded - no one - except the BSA National office, has the ability to remove it. Certainly not your Troop's committee. Talk to your Scoutmaster - NOW. BTW - what was done with Alex for his multiple incidents of shoving, and (especially) Jacob for shoving, stabbing, tripping, stealing, and punching? James might have incited the incidents, but these boys were the ones to actually demonstrate, CLEARLY, what it means to NOT live by the Scou
  19. GeorgiaMom's link ( http://www.bsaseabase.org/filestore/financeimpact/pdf/Fiscal_Policies_and_Procedures_for_BSA_Units.pdf ) covers the BSA financial bases pretty well. Many councils have this information on their website (mine has had it for at least the last 10 years). As the above policies state, units should NEVER use an individual's SS# to get an EIN. Since your Charter Organization will not let you use it's tax ID # for your bank, simply go to the IRS website, fill out form SS-4, and get an ID # for your Pack. Meanwhile, you might have your Pack's leaders discuss with
  20. From the BSA New-Unit Application - "The chartered organization selects one of its members to register as chartered organization representative who may also serve as chair or as unit committee member if needed. All units must have a unit leader and a minimum of five paid youth. There must be at least three committee members, with one named chair. Packs must have a den leader/Webelos den leader/Tiger Cub leader who should be registered as an adult in the pack. The chartered organization also provides meeting facilities for the unit. No one may register in more than one position in the same un
  21. Webelos resident camp is a different thing entirely. However, there are still youth to adult ratios that must be maintained.
  22. Nope - this has been the guideline for many years - From the Guide to Safe Scouting - A Webelos Scout may participate in overnight den camping when supervised by an adult. In most cases, the Webelos Scout will be under the supervision of his parent or guardian. It is essential that each Webelos Scout be under the supervision of a parent-approved adult. Joint Webelos den/troop campouts including the parents of the Webelos Scouts are encouraged to strengthen ties between the pack and troop. Den leaders, pack leaders, and parents are expected to accompany the boys on approved trips.
  23. A convicted felon will - most likely - not pass a background check, and will not be accepted by BSA as a registered leader. However - depending on the circumstances of the conviction, and if the Charter Organization goes to bat for them, a person with a felony conviction in their past - MIGHT - be accepted by BSA as a registered member. Not very probable, but it is possible. As for banning a felon parent from meetings - BSA says that you can NOT do that to a parent of a youth member. From the Guide To Safe Scouting - "All aspects of the Scouting program are open to observation by p
  24. He will be 7 years old in May - at the end of kindergarten (or whatever you call it there). At that point he will be eligible to join the Pack as a 1st grade Tiger Cub Scout ALONG WITH THE REST OF HIS CLASSMATES. He is not currently eligible to join BSA. Don't rush him. Let him join at the end of the school year, with the rest of his school buddies, when they are ALL eligible.
  25. Requirements to charter/re-charter per BSA National - The chartered organization selects one of its members to register as chartered organization representative who may also serve as chair or as unit committee member if needed. All units must have a unit leader and a minimum of five paid youth. There must be at least three committee members, with one named chair. Packs must have a den leader/Webelos den leader/Tiger Cub leader who should be registered as an adult in the pack. The chartered organization also provides meeting facilities for the unit. No one may r
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