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This is taken from the UK Scoutbase website:

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/eqopps/eo-rel-y.htm

 

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Equal Opportunities Policy: Guidelines with reference to Young People: Religious belief

1. Policy

 

No young person should receive less favourable treatment on the basis of, nor suffer disadvantage by reason of, his or her religious belief.

 

2. Scouting Principles

 

The Aim of The Scout Association is to promote the development of young people so that they can achieve their full physical, intellectual, social and spiritual potentials. A belief in the spiritual aspect of human beings and a belief in a spiritual power greater than any human being is fundamental to World Scouting.

 

This belief is demonstrated by young people when they make their Promise. As Scouting, both in the United Kingdom and world-wide, is open to followers of all faiths the wording of the Promise takes into account the different religious obligations of the Association's Members. Therefore, a young person can promise to do his or her duty 'to God' (suitable for most faiths, including Christians, Jews and Sikhs), 'to my Dharma' (Hindu and Buddhist) or 'to Allah' (Orthodox Muslim).

 

To enable young people to grow into independent adults the Scout Method encourages young people to question what they have been taught. Scouts and Venture Scouts who question God's existence, their own spirituality or the structures and beliefs of any or all religions are simply searching for spiritual understanding. This notion of a search for enlightenment is compatible with belief in most of the world's faiths. It is unacceptable to refuse Membership, or question a young person's suitability to continue to participate fully in a Section, if they express doubts about the meaning of the Promise.

 

As a multi-faith organisation, Scout Leaders and other Volunteers need to consider the religious observances practised by all Members of their Section, Group or District. The planning and the delivery of the programme should take into account the prayer and worship, dietary requirements and behavioural rules as practised by all those participating in the programme.

 

3. Restrictions to youth Membership on the basis of religious belief

 

It is not acceptable to deny entry to, or persuade a young person to leave, the Movement because of his or her religious beliefs.

 

However, the Religious Policy of the Association prohibits Membership to anyone who denies the spiritual side of human beings or the existence of a spiritual power greater than any human being. It may also be acceptable to ask a young person to leave the Movement if:

 

* the young person is putting unfair pressure on other young people to conform to a particular set of beliefs or to join another faith community (in such case 'unfairness' needs to be judged by the effect of that pressure on other members);

* the young person expresses their beliefs in a way that is in conflict with the fundamental principles of the Association.

 

The Scout Association permits places of worship, schools and other community based organisations to sponsor Scout Groups and some limit their Membership to young people associated with the Sponsoring Authority. These Groups are an important part of Scouting, and complement other local Groups who offer Membership to all local young people, whether they are associated with places of worship, schools and other local organisations or not.

 

4. Problems for Commissioners

 

1.

All the Groups in a District are sponsored by or associated with one faith, therefore a young person of a different faith is denied access to Scouting.

 

In such case, Commissioners should first ensure that there is not a suitable Group - either an existing multi-faith Group or a Group which is willing to become a multi-faith Group. If there is not a suitable Group, then Commissioners could approach the young person s community to sponsor a new Group or encourage the District to develop an unsponsored multi-faith Group.

 

2.

A Leader does not allow young people with different beliefs or practices to himself or herself to join the Section.

 

Commissioners should first provide training and discussion sessions for Leaders to enable them to run a multi-faith Section. Commissioners can also help the Group to recruit new Leaders from other faiths not currently represented.

 

3.

A Leader is seriously concerned about a religious practice that a young person has shown an interest in, either because it appears to be a cult or because of the effect it is having on that young person's life.

 

Leaders should talk the situation through with a colleague and get advice from the Scouting Values Department at Headquarters. The Leader should discuss his or her informed concerns with the young person and his or her family.

 

4.

Religious leaders associated with a Group (usually as a Sponsoring Authority) complain that a decision made by the Scout Leaders, or the way the Leaders run the Group, are not acceptable.

 

This situation can be avoided by ensuring that a Sponsoring Authority is clearly briefed on the Policy and Rules of the Association before an agreement is made, and kept up to date on any changes. However, where this situation does occur, Commissioners should first determine the issue which forms the basis of the complaint. They can then mediate a discussion on that issue, and that issue alone, with both the Sponsoring Authority and the Leaders.

 

5.

Leaders fail to recognise the diversity of faith and religious practices of Members in their programme.

 

This could be shown by closing every meeting by saying the Lord's Prayer or always using a standard camp menu which does not have Kosher, vegetarian or Halal options. Solutions must be based on discussion with the Leadership with additional training on the Association's policy on spiritual development and the multi-faith nature of the Movement. Commissioners should also help Leaders find alternatives, for example different ways to close a meeting, multi-cultural recipes.

 

5. References and Resources

Further Information

 

1.

Further information on religious belief is available from the Scouting Values Department and the National Chaplaincy Team at Gilwell Park, or from your County Chaplaincy Team.

 

2.

Advice about acceptable and unacceptable faiths and cults is offered by the Scout Values Department at Headquarters.

 

3.

Information on local faith communities is usually available in local libraries and places of worship. The Inter-faith Directory gives contact information on local associations or branches of national organisations who will give information on specific faiths. Your Local Education Authority, and the Standing Advisory Council on Religious Education (SACRE), will also be able to tell you how religious education is taught in your local schools.

 

4.

Alternative wording of the Promise for different faiths is given in Rule 1.1 in Policy, Organisation and Rules.

 

Resources

 

1.

Fact sheets on Scouting and faith communities, currently Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and Rastafari, are available from the Scout Information Centre or from the Scouting Values Department.

 

2.

The SHAP Working Party on World Religions in Education publishes an annual calendar of festivals which will list the appropriate dates for a particular year. The calendar is available from the SHAP Working Party, c/o National Societies RE Centre, 36 Causton Street, London SW1P 4AU. Tel. 020 7932 1194.

 

3.

The Equal Opportunities Policy Case Studies includes examples of religious beliefs held by young people in Scouting. The Pack is available from the Scout Information Centre.

 

4.

God are You still in There looks at spiritual development within Scouting. The pack is available from Scottish Headquarters.

 

Within the Equal Opportunities Policy a 'Young Person' refers to someone participating in the youth programme. It should be noted that it is therefore possible for a Young Person to be older than an 'Adult' and for an individual to be both a Young Person and an Adult

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This details the variations in the wording of 'Duty to God' to take into account different beleifs:

(source ) http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/por/2006/1_5.htm

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POR: Chapter 1: Fundamentals of Scouting

Rule 1.1: Variations to the wording of the Promises

AMENDMENT: Minor change in wording of (d), and addition of (f) Nov 2006

 

1. Scouting is open to all faiths and must therefore take account of the different religious obligations of its Members while upholding the essential spirit of the Promise.

 

2. In each Promise the phrase 'Duty to God' or, in the case of Beaver Scouts, 'to love God', is suitable for most faiths (including Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims and Sikhs).

 

3. Hindus may use either the words 'my Dharma' or 'God'.

 

4. Muslims may use the word 'Allah' in place of 'God'.

 

5. Buddhists should use only the words 'my Dharma'.

 

6. Muslims may use the phrase .In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. in place of .On my honour. when making the Promise.

 

7. Where some other form of wording is required for a member of a particular faith or religion advice should be sought from Headquarters.

 

8. Similarly it is accepted that foreign residents who may become Members of the Association owe allegiance to their own country.

 

9. To meet these circumstances the phrase 'duty to The Queen' should be replaced by the phrase 'duty to the country in which I am now living'.

 

10. In the case of Beaver Scouts, Cub Scouts and Scouts the decision as to which permitted form of wording should be used in any particular case will be made by the Group Scout Leader in consultation with the parents of the young person concerned.

 

11. In the case of Explorer Scouts, Scout Network members and adults the decision as to which permitted form of wording should be used in any particular case will be made by the District or County Commissioner as appropriate in consultation with the person concerned. -----------------------------------------

 

theres also some factsheets (pdf) that cover most relegiious situations here: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/

Scroll down to the Development section.

 

 

Ive heard a few good things about Gilwell park Campsite, which is located close to London, and also has a small mueseum of Scoutng related stuff

http://www.scouts.org.uk/nationalcentres/gilwellactivity.html

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/direct/museums/gilwell/index.htm

 

As for the London area, Baden Powel house offers overnight accomodation,in the city centre

http://www.scouts.org.uk/nationalcentres/bpactivity.html

 

 

THeres also a directory of (most) UK camspsites here:

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/cgi-bin/camping/db.cgi?db=camping&uid=default

 

you could also try asking on a UK scouting forum, such as http://www.escouts.org.uk

 

and on the uk.rec.scouting newsgroup

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.scouting/topics?hl=en

 

Im about 200 miles from Poole Harbour (and Brownsea island) or about 320Km, ive never been there yet, although there is talk of it sometime in the Scout group/district, for sometime this year, or probably next year (2008) When our Scout group could be 100 years old if we can verify an old photo showing the Scout troop dated 1908.

 

As for the Jamboree in Essex, same again i wont be there, although i will be at a camp in Holland, haarlem jamborette, near Amsterdam.

http://www.haarlemjamborette.nl/

 

 

Im in the Scout Association (UK) part of the World Organisation of the Scout Movement (WOSM) there are a few other Scout organisations operating in the UK such as the FES/CES and the Baden Powel Scouts, although they are few and far between, and ive never encounterede anyone from those groups.

Heres some information on Scouting in the UK.

The Scout Association is the main body ( and only WOSM member) in the UK and is based at Gilwell park, in Essex.

There are currenty five Scouting sections and a support Scout fellowship section.

the main Scouting Sections (from 2003) are as follows:

Beaver Scouts age: 6 to 8

Cub Scouts: age 8 to 10 1/2

Scouts from 10 1/2 to 14

Explorer Scouts from 14 to 18

Scout Network from 18 to 25

 

Before 2003, there was

Beaver Scouts ( as above)

Cub Scouts ( as above)

Scouts from 10 1/2 to 15 1/2

Venture Scouts from 15 1/2 to 21

 

UK Scouting is now fully Co educational ( ie open to girls and boys in all sections) although it has been slowly phased in over time roughly as follows:

Venture Scout units could be mixed sex from the 1970's if they ( or the group) wanted to be

Beavers, Cubs and Scouts could be mixed from roughly 1992 again at the groups discretion.

As from 2007 ( this year) almost all Scout groups have to provide provision for girls as well as boys in Scouting ( with the exception of closed groups attached to and with members only from certain groups - ie Scools)

 

Each scout group consists of any or all of the main sections and in some cases there may be two or more Beaver colonys/cub packs/Scout troops packs within the group.

Each group is run by someone called the Group Scout Leader (GSL) and is assisted by the Group executive comitee.

Each Scout group is a member of a district ( ie South Nottingham ) and the district will typicly consist of a District Comisioner (DC) with an ADC ( assistant district comisioner) Beavers, ADC Cubs, ADC Scouts as well as other people in charge of events and such like there is also a DESC ( Ditrict Explorer Scout Comitte ( as explorers are a district provision and not part of a group, although different explorer units are often attached to a group)

 

On to the Sections, theres more info on the Scoutbase website for each section

 

Beavers: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/beaver/

Cubs: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/cub/

Scouts: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/scout/

Explorer Scouts: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/explorer/

The Scout Network: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/network/

 

 

theres also some resources avaialble here

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/6to25/scout/resources/

 

as well as factsheets on almost everything in UK scouting here:

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/

you could try here: http://eng.thejamboree.org/

from what ive found out the 'Scouts' in the link above refer to the Mahdi Scouts, who are NOT part of the World Organisation of the Scouting Movement (WOSM) http://www.scout.org and appear to be non aligned with any other Scout movement.

 

a look on gogole revelaed more information on Scouting here:

http://www.troop97.net/wrldsct2.htm

As poart of the UK Scouting centenary celebrations, the BBC are showing some special programmes on Radio and TV, the first one of these was a Radio programme Broadcast earlier today called 'Boys Badges, and Baden Powel' mostly about Scoutings early days, with information on the Parents leter sent out for the first camp on Brownsea Island, as well as old clips of interviews with some of the origanal boys who went on the first experimental camp.

 

you can use the BBc radio player the listen to this show again, although there usualy only available for a week.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/boysbadgespowell/pip/izyk1/

 

Part2 will be broadcast Next week, and there is also a Programme broadcast on primetime BBC2 between 8pm-9pm on the 2nd of January called "When we were Scouts"

 

The programme is a one hour look back on the last 100 years of Scouting.

It involves celebrities looking back at their Scouting when they were young. More importantly, it also involves a camp at Gilwell Park, the home of Scouting, where( Presenter/Comedian) Neil Morrissey 'stumbles' across a Troop at camp and joins in.

 

He arrives with his 'Scouting for Boys' under his arm and realises that Scouting today is the adventure every Young Person should get involved with and that the many 'myths' of Scouting are not necessarily correct!

 

The troop that Neil camp's with is the 3rd Hastings (Holy Redeemer) Scout Troop, from Hastings, Rye & District, East Sussex - an excellent example of what Scouting is all about today!

(above text taken from www.kentscouts.org.uk )

 

 

theres some more info on Scouting in Iraq as well as Afghanistan, mongolia, and how Scouting is helping to prevent street gang violence in San Salvador here (pdf):

http://www.scout.org/en/content/download/3231/30633/file/21bl_afghanistan.pdf

To comemerate 100 years of Scouting the Royal mint in the UK is going to issue into general criculation a comemerative 50p coin.

The reverse of the coin will feature the Scout fleur de lis symbol super imposed over the world, with the words " 1907 - Be Prepared - 2007 "

[img=http://www.royalmint.com/RoyalMint/web/MultimediaFiles/UKSCMBP_3.JPG]

or here if the above doesnt show:

http://www.royalmint.com/RoyalMint/web/MultimediaFiles/UKSCMBP_3.JPG

Heres Camp menu from the UK ( weekend camp)

 

Friday:

Supper : soup with bread cob, Tea/coffe/hot chocolate, biscuits ( to dunk in the hot drinks)

this is based on the Scouts arriving at camp after 6pm, having previously eaten a meal before arriving at camp

 

Saturday:

Breakfast - Cereals, Sausages Beans and Egg.

Lunch: Bread, with a choice of sandwich fillings ( ie cheese, pickle, ham, fish paste, meat paste, etc) Salad, fresh fruit, crisps, small chocolate bar ( ie two finger kit kat) cold drink ( ie squash)

Tea: Chicken Curry, chocolate sponge pudding

Supper: hot Drinks, biscuits.

 

Sunday:

Breakfast: Cereals, Bacon+ Sasuage+egg+mushroom Cobs.

Lunch: Sandwiches+fresh fruit

 

A few variations may be a hot lunch if its during winter, Fish and Chips for Tea, depending upon camp budget and the campsite location.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some of the larger camps have a bar for those on site over 18 years old, although in most cases the 'bar' is set up in a hut on the campsite.

The Drinking age in the UK is 18, however its only ilegal to sell alcohol to someone under 18.

Scouting has gone through a few changes in the UK in recent years, previously it was

Beavers - 6 to 8

Cubs 8 to 10

Scouts 10 - 16

Venture Scouts 16 - 21

 

With Venture Scouts you had some over 18 and some under 18, in theory the under 18s shouldnt have had access to the bar area which was usualy controlled via the use of passes ( ie a green ID card for over18s and a red one for under 18s)

Alcohol consumption on Venture Scouts camps was usualy social and sensible.

As long as people didnt go over the top and drink to excess there wasnt a problem.

If someone did too much then they were in a safe environment with people around to make sure that things were OK.

However depending on how that person behaved He/she wouldnt be welcome on any further activities and events until they could gaurentee that they would be able to act responsably, any repeat offences would be dealt with seriously by the Venture Scout group.

 

to sum up at least 99.99% of the people who were in Venture Scouts acted in a responsable and safe manner with regards to Alcohol.

The above was my own expeiriences from when I was a Venture Scout

 

Venture Scouting in the Uk is no more, and has since been replaced with:

Explorer Scouts (14 -18 ) and Scout Network ( 18-25)

with Explorer Scouts most groups have a no alcohol policy for under 18s, some groups have a 'controlled' alcohol policy for example: the parents give the leaders a can of beer which they can give to the relavant Explorer scout, although this is almost always only if all the Parents agree.

 

The emphasis is on sensible drinking, and anyone overstepping the mark can expect to be in trouble.

There used to be a Dog licence, but that went a good few years ago.

 

UK scouting: all groups to be Co-ed from 2007, some groups Co-ed from now ( our district went co-ed last year)

 

UK scouting:

Beavers - age 6 to 8

Cubs - age 8 to 10

Scouts - age 10 to 14

Explorer Scouts - age 14 to 18

Scout Network - 18-25

 

Scout Fellowship age 18+

 

 

Usualy 'Lads' although i will have to change that when we go Co-ed for real.

(At the moment we are technicly co-ed, but theres no girls in the Scout troop or Cub pack at the moment)

important things?

 

999 = UK emergency phone number

911 = US emergency number

 

UK = Petrol

US = Gas

 

UK petrol (gas) price = high

US price = Cheap

doing a rough conversion the price of petrol in the UK is equivalent to at least US$6 per gallon

 

UK: a licence is required by law to watch/receive any broadcast TV channel which costs 126.50, this funds all of the BBCs broadcast TV channels and Radio stations in the UK

 

US: everything funded by advertisisng/sponsorship.

 

As part of my leader training (UK Scout Association ) i was recently asked about Relegion and my beliefs which upto then was something that no one had ever asked me.

When I was asked about my beliefs i found it an imensly hard question to answer, do I believe in God? - im not sure, at this stage in my life religion isnt a central part of my day to day life, however i do believe that theres something out there, what - i dont know.

Call it a higher power, call it god, call it a higher power, whatever you want.

 

and those opinions were good enough for me to get through that small piece of leader training.

 

 

Ive noticed a few differences between UK English and American English ( some in relation to Scouting ) while looking through these forums and after meeting other people from America on some of the international camps ive been on :

 

UK: Badges

US: Patches

 

UK: Woggle

US: Neckerchief slide

 

UK: Rubbish

US: Trash

 

then theres some words that can cause more confusion:

 

UK: Fags = slang for ciggarrette, I understand the American meaning for this word is altogether different

 

UK: Crisps = US: chips

UK: chips = US: fries

 

UK: Trousers = US: Pants

UK: Pants = US: ?? ( in the UK pants are underwear - ie boxer shorts, breifs etc)

 

The Letter 'Z' in the UK its 'Zed' in the USA its Zee

 

anyone know any more?

 

 

 

Are your Troops/Groups planning anything to mark 100 years of Scouting on the 1st of August 2007?

http://www.scouting2007.org/

Ive got a few team building games/excersizes

 

Quiz: Nine questions ( listening skill)

 

1: Some months have 31 days, some months have 30 days, how many months have 28 days?

 

2: If you had one match, and entered a dark room where there was an oil lamp, an oil

heater, and some kindling wood which would you light first?

 

3: If a doctor gave you three pills and told you to take one every half hour, how

long would the pills last?

 

4: If a farmer had 17 sheep, and all but 9 die, how many sheep has the farmer got

left?

 

5: A man built a house with 4 sides, it is rectangular with all sides facing south,

along walks a bear, what colour is it?

 

6: If you take two apples away from three apples, how many apples do you have?

 

7: According to the bible, how many of each species did Moses take onto the ark?

 

8: If you were to dig a hole , 1 metre long, by 1 metre wide, and one metre deep,

how much soil would there be in the hole in metres cubed?

 

9: If you drove a bus with 42 people from Nottingham, stopped off at Leicester to pick up 7 more, and drop off 5 passengers, then drove to Derby to pick up 3 more and drop off 7, then arrived at Loughborough to drop off 16. The whole journey took 6 hours and 54 minutes, what was the name of the driver?

 

 

Team Game: Human knot

equipment none required.

 

The team stands in a circle and each member of the group reaches in to hold hands with a different person, the group then has to unravel the 'human' knot without letting go of each others hands.

 

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Team game : Rubber fettish

Equipment large rubber inner tube, stopwatch, pen and

 

Each member of the team has to get their whole body through the tube in the fastest time, each persons whole body must pass through the tube.

The challenge is to practice first for five minutes then write down the fastest time that the challenge can be completed in.

The tube can not be cut or damaged.

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Team game all across

equipment, three crates ( ie bottle/beer crates) two planks ( wide enough to stand on) two long pieces of rope to form the 'edges' of the area they have to cross.

 

The group has to get form one side to the other without touching the ground beteen each side, using only the beer crates and the planks ( place the rope on the floor/ground to mark the sides)

 

Team game blindfold square

equipment blinfolds, and a long length of rope

 

The team stands in a circle, facing inwards with their blindfolds on, and the rope layed out on the floor in front of them. (Check that the blindfolds are on correctly)

the team then has to make a perfect square using the rope with a diagonal line from one corner to the other, the whole length of rope is to be used.

The rope must not be doubled up at any point.

The team decides when to remove the blindfolds, when they are in agreement that the chalenge has been completed.

 

Team game: chaos ball

Equipment Balls, coiled rope, and any other object that can be used to play 'catch' with as well as a semi precious item that cant be dropped ( ie a mug ) and a precious item, such as a raw egg

 

Throw the 'ball' to everyone in the group returning it to the instructor, within the rules as quickly as possible, calling out that persons first name to which you are throwing it to, adding other objects as the activity progresses, finishing with objects that cant be dropped (ie the egg)

 

Rules:

if the ball is dropped then you have to start again

no hand signals

no shouting out Its Him/her or Ive/Hes/Shes not had it yet

the last person that thinks everyones had the ball or item passes it back to the instructor

 

Theres some more team building/leadership excersizes, games etc at http://www.scouts.org.uk/takingthelead/index.html

 

Quiz answers

 

1: 12 ( all months have 28 days, some have more)

2: The match ( you need to light the match before anything else can be lit)

3: one hour ( example: you take the first pill at 19:00, the second at 19:30 and the last at 20:00)

4: 17 sheep left ( there still sheep even though some are dead)

5: White ( a house with all four sides facing south would be at the north pole therefore it would be a polar bear)

6: Two apples

7: None ( it was Noah and the ark)

8: 0 metres cubed ( you have dug a hole and therefore there is no soil on the hole)

9: the drivers name is the name pf the person fillling in the answers, the question is if YOU drove a bus.........what is the drivers name

 

Out of curiosity, whats the age range of Scouts in the USA, and whats the (rough) average age of a patrol leader?

 

We use first names, which is the same as when i was a Scout, where all the leaders were known on first name terms.

A lot of the other Scout troops nearby use first names, or 'Skip' for the Scout leader.

As for the cub section, most use 'Akela' for the cub leader, and other jungle book names for other leaders, some use first names.

 

These sites are aimed at the UK, but theres plenty of information, activities, games etc that can be used anywhere.

 

Scouts taking the lead is a resource pack (pdf) that is designed to help adult Leaders develop leadership skills with young people in the Scout Troop. It will help you promote the active participation of your Scouts in the day to day running of your Troop. The resource will also help to increase their participation in the decision making process of The Scout Association - at local, national and indeed international levels. Most importantly, it will help young people become better leaders, both within Scouting and in preparation for their adult roles in society.

(above Text taken from website)

the resource pack, which contains plenty of games and activitys can be downloaded from here: http://www.scouts.org.uk/takingthelead/index.html

In the UK, the Scout age is 10-14 and Explorer Scouts are 14-18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ive had a few 'expeirences' with liquid fueled kit while camping when i was a Scout.

First of all, Tilley lamps, in case they dont use these in North America, they are basicly Parrafin ( kerosene) pressure lamps, which are lit by warming up the Stem ( which contains a mantle in a glass surround) with a Methylated spirit soaked clip on wick.

to light these you fill the base with paraffin, close the valve on the stem and presurise the base with the attached pump.

The Wick is then soaked in methylated spirit, clamped to the stem ( above tha valve) then its lit.

After a while the Stem is hot enough to vapourise the paraffin and it all goes well - if done right.

Get it wrong and you make a nice flame thrower.

http://www.tilleylamp.co.uk/

 

When I was a Scout on a Camp, someone made a few mistakes, and ended up with a large roaring flame coming out of the top - the container with the meths in was knocked over and spilt over the table which was soon on fire.

Now its mainly Butane powered Gas lights, which are much more predictable easier and cleaner to light ( although not as bright as parrafin )

 

The fuels we use now are

Butane( lights and stoves), Propane ( stove), and Methylated spirits ( trangia stoves) as well as wood on open fires.

Norway. if all goes to plan, we will be meeting up with a scout group from Norway , and staying at a campsite with them.

The travel plans are the Boat from Newcastle-upon tyne to Bergan/Stavanger, which will involve an overnight stay in cabins onboard.

This will be the first time the Scout troop has been abroad, and the first time i will be in a leadership position while on a Scouting trip abroad.

Fortunatly weve got a Leader in our scout group who is expeirienced at taking Scouts to Norway, and also knows the Scout leaders of the Group in Norway quite well, and i will be travelling as an Assistant Scout leader.

ay-up from the UK.

If yo want to translate that website into english, highlight the website address, right click on copy, then go to http://www.altavista.com click on the translate link, then delete the http:// bit from the box , right click on copy and then select translate from Dutch to english via the drop down boxes.

you should get a rough translation from that.