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moosetracker, I was aware that 18 - 20 year olds could hold those positions my response was aimed at dg98adams that seemed to be acting as though this Eagle Scout should sit on the side lines for 3 years until he is 21 before he should be allowed to interact with the troop anymore. I think that is simply balderdash!

A quick Google search returned this: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34405.pdf which is the BSA Merit Badge Counselor Application Form with a revision date of 2001. It shows the age requirement as 18 years old so it has been this way for at least 9 years. I don't see the problem here. You say this young adult Scouter is a highly qualified individual, no? He has been involved in Scouting since he was a Tiger Scout and has remained dedicated enough to the program to earn Eagle Scout. Yet, somehow he should have to sit back for three years and cool his heels some and learn some

TNScouterTroop seems to have a flair for the royal we as though it gives more of an air of authority. I will simply tell you how I feel from a simply persons point of view! I do not understand the need to make a foundation of Orthodox faith the basis of Boy Scouting. Lord Baden Powell said, "No man is much good unless he believes in God and obeys His laws. So every Scout should have a religion....Religion seems a very simple thing: First: Love and serve God. Second: Love and serve your neighbour." (Scouting for Boys) There are twelve interweaving and coexisting Scout Laws n

Frank, I see your point but I don't think it addresses Bacchus' concerns. I am also an ASM in my son's troop. I do not feel that I give him any special attention, yet I worry that others do. In fact, my son would be the first to tell anyone that he feels I may be too hands off related to him. Sometimes he would like me to intervene when a problem arises but if safety is not a concern I will remain apart from the conflict and let them work it out. Our troop took 7 Scouts to a national weather center to assist in the completion of the weather MB. However, only the two Scouts that I hav

With all due respect, Beavah: But just culling these all from the same thread has me thinking Hello Pot, this is the Kettle! Posted: Thursday, 8/19/2010: 12:50:24 PM Interesting version of tolerance and scoutly reverence yeh have. Posted: Thursday, 8/19/2010: 4:15:18 PM I gotta tell yeh, as a non-Catholic and scouter, that I find da prejudice and slurs about da faith of fellow scouters quite disgusting. If that's what some of you are conveying to youth in da BSA, I wish you'd quit da program and go crawl back under whatever rock yeh came from. Posted: Wednesday, 8/18/

DanKroh sais: >>"AIDS research is not my specialty, either. Did I every say there was *not* promiscuity in the gay community? Nope. But an *average* of 110 partners? Nah, until I see it in a legitimate scientific study, not gonna bite on that one. What's the *average* number of partners among heterosexuals, btw, just for comparison?"

Perdidochas, you seemed surprised there would be a security concern for the president among all those courteous Boy Scouts that booed his taped performance and the Scouters that allowed them to boo. I am not surprised. There should be an ever vigilant security concern surrounding this and every president. I have friends who were in the Gulf during the first Gulf War and when the president came to speak to them they all had to turn in the bolts for their rifles before the assembly. Just in case you know.

I think that it is actually my role as an adult leader to be apolitical in my dealing with Scouts. I should do my best to impart upon them the importance of good citizenship and the values of our freedoms. I am quite certain that I can answer all their questions concerning the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of the Federal government and the other more local governmental roles without allowing any of my personal biases to enter the equation. Our Troop was recently visited by a member of Congress. I did not care what his politics were while he was addressing the next gener

If we are all fellow Arrowmen, as some here have pointed out, then why do some feel the need to point out the difference in "rank" between Ordeal, Brotherhood, and Vigil members, youth elected, or adult selected by wearing different styled pocket flaps or distinctive pocket rockets when not wearing the sash? I thought the movement away from distinctive flaps that were the norm through the late '70s was an attempt to equalize the levels of "brotherhood" in the "Order" after all. I have yet to seal my membership in the OA, I am an Ordeal member from the class of 1976 and I will seek my Brothe

I would like to offer a point. Our troop traveled to summer camp out of council this year and we were lucky enough to have two more registered adults than needed to drive the vehicles. I only point that out because we ran into a medical emergency with an adult leader who needed to remain hospitalized at the end of the week. Thankfully we had the manpower to return home with all our Scouts, equipment, and vehicles in one convoy because we had extra drivers along. This became really apparent after another recent camping trip where a Scout was injured and a late night hospital run caused a de

I stand humbly corrected I really meant to say medal and not badge, as in cloth type, sew on badge. But thanks for the helpful nudge, emb201.

shortridge said: "You can't wear the actual badges, thus the (sort of)." I thought adults were permitted to were the Eagle badge at formal occasions, as stated in the insignia guide (http://tinyurl.com/yzadu8o) But I guess by pointing this out I will forever be relegated to the dreaded "uniform police" gawd how I hate that term.

Oak Tree you said: "It's not just because it's "youth earned" - there are lots of things you can earn as a Scout that you can continue to wear as an adult...Eagle knot (sort of), Arrow of Light knot (sort of)..." I was wondering what you meant by sort of?

BDPT00, how do you feel about the World Crest Wood Badge patch that has begun to make the circuit (http://tinyurl.com/n5akwt). Would that patch disqualify the wearer from staffing your course, too? I am just curious.

Why do you need to receive a coin for Wood Badge when you get the leather thong and Beads? You see this is where I think that Gern may have been leaning with the thread about wearing the uniform to boost one's ego. But then again I'm no mind reader. Why can't people simply be satisfied with the level of recognition that comes with course completion? Why do they need to keep piling it on? Critter this, critter that, critter dinners, Wood Badge CSP's, the circle badge around the world scouting badge, enough already . . . I get it you have your Wood Badge!

If a Scouter earns the knot then they are wrong if they do not wear the knot. Seems that would be the guidance properly prescribed by the insignia guide. Why is it presumed that only youth earned knots (Eagle Scout, religious, and Arrow of Light) are okay but not any others? Those others indicate continued dedication and diligence to the cause of Scouting to me. But wear them properly and in accordance with the insignia guide. Do not wear extra embellishment that are not authorized or demean the purpose of Scouting. We are leaders that should be all about setting the proper example fo

Scoutldr said: "Just like the upcoming Swine Flu shot campaign. Wait till all the seniors realize that they are at the bottom of the priority list. (The top of the list is school kids, pregnant women, and healthcare providers). That's healthcare rationing and it's already coming to a neighborhood near you." H1:N1 or a close relative virus has been in the wild before around 40-45 years ago, therefore, "boomers" and seniors have a certain amount of resistance having already been exposed to the virus. No big conspiracy to keep anyone from getting vital treatment, rather it is an example of p

Mike Rowe is an Eagle Scout and the host of TV's Dirty Jobs and other programs as well as the new voice of the Ford Motor Company.

>"Maybe we should also ask the boys to get rid of their patrol emblems and patrol flags with any awards hanging from them. We don't want them to offend anyone not in their group, right?" Those patrol members are actively involved in their current patrol or the patrol itself has a legacy that is being passed down within the troop to new members. This is different than all "Owls', "Beavers", or "Eagles" from different WB troops and training experiences flocking together like birds of a feather. Good on ya for earning your beads, 'nuff said! >"Finally, there is this thing called

>> Could you please explain to me when it would not be prudent >> to wear Wood Badge beads in uniform. >When using a table saw? Put 'em in your shirt or better yet take 'em off for safety sake. They do come off, don't they? This is not a discussion about the merits of WB for me. This is a discussion of the need of WBers to over adorn themselves in WB regalia. I get it you have been to WB, you are entitled to wear the vaunted beads. I have no problem with that but that is where I draw the line. Why do you need to have a bumper sticker, a stave, a hat, a CSP, a

Could this be used as a lesson in the Gern Badge?

You are right, of course, that it should not be a test because the requirements have already been met. However, I have been told that a recent BOR in my area has indeed included tests of knot knowledge. I was not included in the BOR but know someone who was there. The person asking the question was on their first BOR so maybe it will not happen again.

MV Scouter says "No one complains, and there are some instances when the beads are not prudent to wear, so the patch is the identity." Could you please explain to me when it would not be prudent to wear Wood Badge beads in uniform. Are they not an accepted part of the Boy Scout uniform? How would an unauthorized badge be more prudent to wear than something that is actually presented for completing training? That simply defies logic!

Groovy is making a reappearance around these parts . . . sure hope LSMFT doesn't! But I understood your point. I had to google that to see what it meant just missed that by an edge of a generation.

LSMFT I see what you mean Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco has everything to do with this thread!