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Interesting thread. I would not have a discussion with the troop over what the consequences would be, if it will be obvious to all who the scout in question is. I can't really put my finger on a reason, but that is just my gut feeling. I agree with what has been posted here, sit down with the scout and talk about how his actions violate the scout oath/law. This would depend on who the scout is, but he may be able to come up with some good way to detirmine when he is ready for eagle.

How exactly is a lost child exercise run. (I want to try one of them for my troop)

I think http://www.scoutingmagazine.org/about/proghelps.html has what you are looking for

You are correct that the Eagle rank is not official until approval is recieved by national. However, the date of rank advancment on all the papers (and the one that counts for getting eagle palms) is the date of the BOR

From the Guide to Inductions: "The call-out is a key element of the induction sequence. Lodges should ensure that every candidate elected to become a member of the OA has the opportunity to attend a call-out and be recognized. Although it is not mandatory for a candidate to attend a call-out ceremony in order to participate in the Ordeal, call-outs are a key element in the induction sequence. Therefore, lodges and chapters should make every effort to provide call-outs at unit meetings or at other times for candidates who cannot attend their scheduled call-out" (had to copy by hand so ther

I am not 100% sure about this, but I believe that as long as you get approval from your Chapter/Lodge it is ok. I am not sure if you would be allowed to do it without there approval.

Thanks for all of your replies. A friend of mine is in the situation (with improper BOR's and MBs) and will be going for eagle soon. Based on all of your reactions, I doubt that it will become a problem, especially since he and I are the only once who realize that this problem exists.

When is it too late to revoke a rank advancment or a merit badge. Let's say that a scouts Star BOR was conducted in an improper manner (didn't have 3 Committee members from his troop, instead it had 1 CM, CC from another troop, and camp ranger). This is discovered at the scouts Eagle Board. Is that reason for denying him the eagle rank (ie. he never made star, so he can't be eagle). Similarly, what if a scout worked on a merit badge with someone he THOUGHT was a merit badge councelor, but turned out really wasn't. Would that cause problems when going for eagle?

I would probbly get seperate pins (but I am still a scout and don't have to decide what I want to do yet). As to your second question, that is kindof hard to answer since you could, in theory, always wear your metals. I, however, only wear my medals on special events, but always where my service stars.

http://tinyurl.com/dzu7u seems to have the most info on this. My thoughts and prayers are with their families.

how hot do you set the iron to?

Does anyone know what the OA Sash is made out of or does anyone have experience ironing it (ie. does it melt easily, that sort of thing) Thanks, Eric

Does anyone know what the OA Sash is made out of or does anyone have experience ironing it (ie. does it melt easily, that sort of thing) Thanks, Eric

Barry, Thanks for your response, but I don't think I asked my question very clearly. While you have TG's in the NSP are they full memebers of the NSP or are they in some way both there old patrol and the NSP at the same time?

Eamonn, What I think KS was refering to was those who get eagle at like age 15 and then are never seen in the troop or any other BSA function again.(This message has been edited by meamemg)

For those of you who use NSPs with Troop Guides, do you keep the Troop Guides in a seperate patrol or do they become members of the New Scout Patrol? For those who keep them in a seperate patrol, how do you work this out? For example, when cooking breakfast which group are they with? If you have them with "their patrol" (not the NSP) then who is helping the new scouts (they may have, for example, forgoten how to set up the stove correctly)? Not sure if this makes any sence. Thanks, Eric

In another thread, refering to paper eagles, emb021 wrote: "They are usually trying to get Eagle because it 'help them get into school', 'get them a scholarship', or the like." Those are my reasons for going for eagle. Right now I am a life scout who will probably stay in BSA for the rest of my life. I only have 3 MB's plus the project left to get to eagle, but I have often found myself asking why should I go for it. Becoming eagle isn't going to make me a better person, being active in my troop for 5 years has done that. However, being an eagle is a recognition to the outside world (

I agree with what has been posted here. I took JLTC 2 years ago. when I came back, if you asked me (and in some cases even if you didn't ask) I would tell you that it was a waste of time. They taught us that you needed to bring pots and pans with you to go cooking. For months after I left I thought it a waste of time, the most important thing that I got out of it being meeting a DE from another council (and getting invited to go to their camporees). However, over time, I slowly proved myslef wrong. I would be leading my troop and suddenly I would realize, "Oh, that is why they told u

BobWhite said: The systems we use for troop operations are modeled after various aspects of our government branches. I have never heard this statement before. Would you care to give some examples of where this occurs?

Have den chiefs. although I haven't actually tired this, based on the one sample I know it is very effective. I was in a pack which was large enough to have two dens per grade-level. My counterpart den had a den chief while my den did not. Only two people from my den joined boy scouts (the other one, not me, joined a different troop and quickly left it). The other den (the one with the den chief) almost everyone joined, and last I checked 4 of them stayed. I imagine that having the den chief had a huge effect on that happening.

I just recieved an e-mail informing me that this morning a new supply division website was launched. you can go to https://scoutnet.scouting.org/BSASupply/ to check it out.(This message has been edited by meamemg)

Dug, Then you would agree that the patrol should have to live with their choice for the rest of the year (or however long the term is)?

Beaver, This was a completly hypothetical situation, just one that I feel has a good chance of happening if a certiant scout wins election as PL. I think the missing a campout was a bit exagerated, but you get the idea, the guy is clearly not doing a good job as PL. Once these concerns are made known to the SM, how would you advise the SM to proceed? acco, So you don't believe that there is any method for removing a PL after he is elected?(This message has been edited by meamemg)

How do you (the youth) remove bad youth leaders from office? For example, let's use the following situation (you are a youth who does not hold a leadership position): 2 months ago you elected a patrol leader. You thought he would do a great job, but he doesn't. He misses alot of meetings. He doesn't tell the patrol about upcoming campouts, so thanks to him your whole patrol didn't get to go to the camporee. He decided to not go to the PLC meeting and didn't bother to tell anyone, so of course his APL didn't know that he should attend. Your whole patrol is feed up with him as a leader a

KS, That is correct. We are a brand new venturing crew. We only have 1 advisor, 1 CC, 1 Comm Member, and the COR (who is not in anywhere close to the physical condition required to go on an outing). As a new unit we are planning things on short notice. Therefore, we were are limited in the number of registered adults we have avalible to us, and none of the regestered ones were avalible that weekend.