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How long? 18 in November,2004. District EBOR Feb, 2005 (ran quarterly). ADD SM had packet in April 2005, but forgot to tell us the packet had arrived until asked in SEPT, or Oct. 2005. It's now May 2007. Son is very involved ASM. He finally floored us with "Maybe we can hold my ECOH in July at summercamp." Two years later. He's is a Heroism Award recipient and knows Council isn't letting him off the hook when it comes to the National COH. He figured he might as well finally have his ECOH at the same time. As for summercamp, he thought it might be nice for the NCH to be he

jablake, What is this young man planning for his Eagle Project? After Eagle, what's next? Have you heard of the Scouting's Hornaday Conservation Awards? Unfortunately in our area, it seems to be a well kept secret that few people know little about. It's such a pity that the program is not promoted more. Is he one of those Scouts that thrives and loves being in the outdoors? If yes, steer him toward the Hornaday Awards program. Get him hooked up with a Hornaday advisor. Depending if he is interested and at what level of Hornaday he wants to achieve, this will keep him busy w

Rob, Welcome to the Forum. Well said. I have a very simular family situation. Every one in the family is either ADD (myself and oldest son) or Bipolar (wife and youngest son, he's also falls in the High Functioning Autistic Specrum Disorder realm.) Just had another Biplor boy join the Troop Mon. night. I'm interested in how you handle things. You can contact me at ericcprather@sbcglobal.net.

Lisa, Sorry about that. Signing the card inplace of the SM, allowing the Scout to start coursework. I don't think National would be to thrilled about us forging documents. LOL Eric

I don't know if all Councils practice this, or of ot os just one of our Councils quirks. According to our DAC, the ASM or a Committee Member also can sign a blue card. The only time we've done this is when the SM wasn't available at a meeting and the Scout needed a card before the next meeting, or when we were in transition between SM's where we weren't sure what the former SM was doing. He just short of stopped showing up with no notice. He was busy with worh, etc, and we ASM and CM's handled the troop until he finally came out that he no longer wanted to be SM. The point being, Aloha

Lisa, Our District limits the MBC's to 3 MB's, except if someone councils for an uncommon MB, then maybe 4. They want the boys out there meeting and interacting with different adults. Our Troop so far, will only cover Camping, Backpacking, Hiking and Cooking MB's introop. Sometimes it gets interesting when a knowledgeable Scout goes toe to toe with a Troop leader on a particular requirement when the leader is only use to doing something a certain way or is tunnel visioned. Ie. Had one scout that used military issue BDU's for his clothing list for summer and winter camping. He was t

Jaime, A future Venturer in the making, eh?

Chuck, Why not come up with an adult sguare knot requirements for adults Scouters involved with Scouting in the Middle Eastern communities. If I'm correct, we already have one for Scouters involved with the Hispanic and I think either the Vietnamese or Southeast Asian communities.

Chuck, How many other Packs or Troops in your District or Council have the same mix as yours? Since there is probably a good mix of Hindi, Shii and Sunni Muslim, Christian, Jewish, possibly some Buddhist, and other Mid-Eastern religions, why not have a one day Cultural Jamboree. It can be as small as a Pack event, or as large as a Council event. You can have activities and or informational sessions geared toward the Scouts and the adults. They can teach eachother different games, songs and dances from their respective cultures. Have storytellers there from each culture t

gwd, Another thought. have you ever checked out Outward Bound. May be a bit pricey, but awesome climbing programs in the Carolinas and Georgia if I remember right.

Sorry gents, last night I had an Alzheimeric moment. I knew Lodge was wrong, but the mind just couldn't come up with Committee. Venture Scouts, alright, their are not Crew members, their Venture Patrol members. Not the same thing, apologizes again. OGE and Beavah, Sorry I have to agree with John. Most of the leaders are the 16-20 year olds. If it were opened up to the Venturers, yea, not all 16-20 year olds would want to be involved, but you see adults there right beside the 12 and 13 year olds doing grub work. If the 16 to 20 crowd are interested, and yes I see a lot of 16 - 20 year

CNY, Thanks for the information. That is the way I thought it was meant to be, but I didn't want to read anything in to it and be wrong. Dianna, Let us know how it goes with the SM.

Dianna, Sorry. I'm not trying to hijack the thread. I have a minor clarification to my question for CNY. Then if I have to, I'll spin off a new thread. CNY, when you start Venturing you earn a Bronze Award. Does this first BA count for the Gold requirement (double dipping), or do you need to earn one of the other BA's for your GA?

I read in another forum site that Crew members are not elegible for OA. I have some questions and thoughts. If a Crew member use to be a Scout and had achieved 1ST Class, why is he not elegible for OA just because he is now a Crew member? Are not Crew members allowed to work independently of the Scouting Program, on Star, Lifa and Eagle rank without being Troop members? Is not the Venturing Program (and Venture Scouts) a division of Scouting just like the Varsity program and Varsity Scouts? Why doesn't National Lodge set a requirement that Venturers that are not from Scout Tro

DenZero, How many troops do you have in your area? Yes it is nice to have the same CO and COR for both, but not necesary. Our Troop's CO is the VFW and the Pack's is the Methodist Church. Last week recruited the minister to the Troop Committee. He's a former SM. If the Pack and Troop have different CO's, approaoch that Troop and any others in the area and see if they have adult leaders or parents that may be interested in helping at the Pack level. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. They need your Pack to keep their Troops afloat. With out the Pack, their future recruits drops

cb, Contact Council and see if they have a Leave No Trace instructor. If yes, contact him/her. Have them check the LNT-L site (which they should have access to) and check out this weeks discussion on the MAZE GAME. You set up a Maze using 36 inch black plastic making pathways (no dead ends). The Maze will have forks in it. At each fork, there will be a LNT situation with two options. You have to make a decision which way to go. Each way will show you what impact your choice made on the environment. With Cub, you can have pictures showing what to do, and what happens. One idea in reference

dianna, Question 1) Is the Crew an offshoot of the troop for the older scouts with the same CO as the troop, or is the Crew it's own entity with a different CO and not attached to the troop in any way? If the Crew and the Troop are attached, there shouldn't be a problem using the requirements for dual purposes. If the Crew and troop are not attached, the SM may feel he/the Troop is being gypped by your son being involved with a Crew fearing your son will spend more time there then with the Troop and that he is going to lose your son permanently to the Crew. I know a few Crews in ou

Here's an idea to keep the new parents from interfering with the boy program. Use the Adult Patrol. Free up an ASM and or other adult leader, or even a senior scout if one is available. For some of the open time, have these leaders run a troop Outdoor Leadership Skills program, especially for the green new parents that aren't use to camping. Not every new parent, even if they are use to camping, will know how to supervise (sorry, keep a watchful eye over) an ax yard. They may have only used a Coleman stove and have no experience with backpacking stoves, Camp Chef setups or Dutch Ovens. Have

dS15 and Barry, Interesting ideas. Our Council WB is held every other year, over two weekends, a month apart, August and September. It would be interesting to see if WB and NYLT could be held together. I feel there would be enough staff to run both. Our Council is also fortunate enough to have two camps 20 miles apart. The NYLT is usually held at the older camp while the Staff week is held at the main camp. The winter break would work with the older camp with indoor facilities being available, actually the main camp also. They could use the Webelos side of camp. As for fall or spring b

Barry, Have you ever come across the problem of yours or another Council scheduling NYLT/JLTC and Summercamp Staff Training week the same week? If so, any ideas on how to approach Council, and on a fix? Like I stated in an earlier post that is a problem here. I'm glad to see that our Council has kept our NYLT priced at the level that you had your scouts paying back when ever. Hope to hear from you soon.

kb6, "Every boy in my unit 1st class and above, 13yo or older attend. There's just no question." How do you pull it off? How do you get the scouts to buy in on it?, and the parents?, the rest of the troop leadership? At tonights meeting, we the leaders, were having a long discussion on what we can do to improve the troop when it comes to older scouts stepping up and helping the younger scouts. We've had some issues lately. We have two 16 yo's (both 17 next week), one present every meeting (semi-special needs) and the other frequently. These two are alright. #1 has problems with some

OGE, "Do we let our children know it is okay to help others".YES, and then the national networks run todays breaking news at @ 1:00pm Woman in New Jersey gets out of her car to help an elderly person across the intersection. Someone jacks the car with her child inside. AMBER ALERT makes breaking news, in OHIO at that!!

A fast history. Our Scout House is in one of our community parks. The park sits in a flood plain between a river and a canal towpath. The building is a WWII Memorial built by the Rotary in the 1950's and designated for Scouting use only. We get flooded 3-5 times a year when the floodgates up north are opened after heavy rains. The city just bought 33 acres for a future park in the next couple of years and will then turn the old park over to the county. The structure (made out of cinder block) has some foundation and wall crackes and someday will float away. We hose it out and clean it after ea

John, I have a few more questions. What do you consider a standard suburban township? Our township has a population just over 13,000 with a small city in the middle (makes up part of the townships pop.). Two major routes through town, both with a fair traffic flow. Was the deli a family run business or a chain? We have a Subway in town. As for races, the Towpath trail runs for ever, in all over 100 miles with only one section not open yet. Also running south aout of town on the other side of the river is another trail at least 5 miles with a middle trail head at the 2 mle marker tha

John, I have a few more questions. What do you consider a standard suburban township? Our township has a population just over 13,000 with a small city in the middle (makes up part of the townships pop.). Two major routes through town, both with a fair traffic flow. Was the deli a family run business or a chain? We have a Subway in town. As for races, the Towpath trail runs for ever, in all over 100 miles with only one section not open yet. Also running south aout of town on the other side of the river is another trail at least 5 miles with a middle trail head at the 2 mle marker tha