Aquila calva

In our troop the participants in Wood Badge and NYLT pay the cost up front. Once the course is completed successfully the participant is reimbursed for half of the cost of the course.

Committee responsibilities may be spelled out in published material but committee abilities regarding behavior are so dependent on the unit leader resources and training that any responses can vary greatly from one troop to the next. The committee is primarily the troops board of directors. These are not necessarily the best people to deal with youth behavior issues. But the SM should report dangerous and repeatedly annoying bad behavior to the committee, at least so no one can say "Oh, we didn't know about that." We are all in this together. The more the scouts, adult leaders and pa

Finger print background checks? How common is this? Does anyone know how this is accomplished? Where do the den leaders go to get their finger prints checked and who pays for it? This seems like quite a logistical challenge for scouting units especially in large units. The pack my son was in (starting in 1997, chartered by a public school) had 130 members and something like 16 dens. Den leaders would change from year-to-year, and new ones would need to be recruited, of course. Just getting the applications filled out and processed was a big job. Finger print background checks could be daunting

Our Troop, Pack and Crew are chartered through the mens club of a large suburban Catholic Church (about 8,000 members!). Since the mens club is not a separate 501c(3) organization, the troop charter is actually held by the church. The church is situated near the border of three different suburban cities, three different school districts and two different scouting districts (talk about confusing!). Most of the recruiting for our Pack is still done through a nearby public school so the boys who join the Pack are of many different religious backgrounds. Most of those Webelos come to our troop, s

Imagine (1971) Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the

"I don't know the official rules, but the priest's stand just doesn't seem very Christian to me." orennoah, You make an interesting statement. What do you think the "Christian stand" should be in this situation? Given that the American Catholic church recently went through (and continues to go through) a major scandal involving inappropriate and possibly illegal behavior on the part of some ordained ministers. What is a "Christian" position to take when approving scout leaders? Just curious. We are all becoming amateur risk managers.

Let me try that again. Here is a link to a youth protection program becoming common in Catholic churches, as referenced in earlier posts. This may help explain some of the current attitudes among leaders in the Catholic church when it comes to adult/child interactions. http://www.virtus.org/virtus/virtus_description.cfm

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Beavah -- Your post on 9/27 in this thread was really excellent. Thank you for your insight. I would like to ask you about your post yesterday. "Where paperwork calls for a CC's signature, he/she is representing the committee not acting solo. So the CC's signature on a leader application represents that the committee has approved the leader application. The CC may even have voted "no." But he signs to reflect the committee's decision, eh? Same deal on an Eagle application." Can you tell us where this came from? Certainly, this would be the best situation, but there could arise situ

Hunt = "decisions are made by the committee chair" Can you tell us where this came from? It may be too sweeping a statement. Certainly "some" decisions are made by the committee chair, such us whether or not to sign a leader application. It is an important responsibility in a troop. Voting at the commmittee meeting is highly over-rated. We rarely vote on anything except when a large amount of money is being allocated or spent. Making and discussing "motions" takes way too much time. We need to get on with doing what we have volunteered to do for the good of the scouts. scout

Our messages overlapped... So, you functioned as a troop committee member (served on BORs) and then "heard through the grapevine" that your application wasn't accepted? The other person who could have signed your troop application was the Chartered Organization Rep. Did that person sign? Time to have a heart-to-heart with the committee chair and the COR. There is more to this story. Tell us. When it comes to manipulation, you may have met your match in that committee chair. (This message has been edited by Aquila calva)

In a nutshell, everyone who attends a troop committee meeting has done something for the good of troop and is there to REPORT about what they have accomplished to the rest of the people who have also done something for the good of the troop. The committee chair prepares the agenda and presides over the meeting. The first people who get to talk are those who have something to report. These are the Chair, Secretary, Treasurer, Scoutmaster and all the coordinators as listed in the Troop Committee Guidebook. (The order of the agenda can change from month to month.) Everyone listens and waits

Depending on the traditions in your pack and troop, the pack could present him with the Boy Scout Handbook, or a neckerchief and slide for his new troop. He will need these for the year he is in the troop. Have a crossover ceremony, even if it is for one Scout. Make a big deal about it. He will remember it for a long time.

I hope the troop gives the boy another chance, especially if his parents were going through a separation during the previous period of "acting out." [i know, I know...it's "viCe versa." That was bugging me. My Latin teacher would be so disappointed.]

The boy approached Committee Chair and Scoutmaster about re-joining. This was a good place for him to start. While the chartered organization (through the institutional head and/or the chartered organization representative) has the right to make a final determination as to who can join a scout troop, most COs are not all that engaged and will leave the joining decisions up to the troop leaders. The only two signatures required on an application for membership in a Boy Scout Troop are the boys parent/guardian and the unit leader. (The old Boy Scout form asked for Signature of Scoutm

It only takes one person to replace a committee chair. If the Chartered Organization Rep wont do it then one other person can do it by: Talking to the current committee chair. Getting all the necessary training. Talking to the current committee chair. Reading all the available scouting material. Talking to the current committee chair. Going on all the outings with the scouts. Talking to the current committee chair. Attending all the troop (pack) meetings. Talking to the current committee chair. Attending all the committee meetings. Talkin

Thursday (yesterday) morning it was reported there had been a Pack committee meeting earlier in the week. Those attending included the Chartered Organization Rep., the Unit Commissioner and the Scout Executive. Who else was there? The Cubmaster should have been there along with the Committee Chair and all the other committee members (as described in the committee handbook). If parents had registered their complaints with the Committee Chair then he/she could have put the issue on the meeting agenda or brought it up as an oh, by the way. Any concerned parent also could have asked to addres

The parents of the 14-year-old need to know what their next door (adult) neighbor did (is doing?) to their son. They may regard this behavior as being too intimate. This "joke" is all about humiliation.

From Boy Scout Troop National Quality Unity Award form A subscription to Boys Life will go into the homes of all our Boy Scout members Comment: A subscription to Boys' Life is a "benefit" of being a member of our troop. The cost is part of our troop budget. We expect the troop to be boy led, so we do what we can to get as many good scouting ideas in front of all the scouts. When they come to the PLC they will have some ideas of what other troops around the country are doing for fun scouting activities. 100% Boys' Life looks great!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/boondoggle boondoggle (b n d g l, -d g l) Informal n. 1. An unnecessary or wasteful project or activity. 2. a. A braided leather cord worn as a decoration especially by Boy Scouts. b. A cord of braided leather, fabric, or plastic strips made by a child as a project to keep busy. intr.v. boondoggled, boondoggling, boondoggles To waste time or money on a boondoggle. [Coined by Robert H. Link (died 1957), American scoutmaster.] lanyard also laniard (l n y rd) n. 1. Nautical A short rope or gasket used for fastening s

"The Lanyard" by Billy Collins The other day as I was ricocheting slowly off the pale blue walls of this room, bouncing from typewriter to piano, from bookshelf to an envelope lying on the floor, I found myself in the L section of the dictionary where my eyes fell upon the word lanyard. No cookie nibbled by a French novelist could send one more suddenly into the past -- a past where I sat at a workbench at a camp by a deep Adirondack lake learning how to braid thin plastic strips into a lanyard, a gift for my mother. I had never seen anyone use a lanyard

Just curious...Are your new CC and treasurer, husband and wife? And they joined the committee only to "help" their mostly absent son "make" Eagle? Better watch the troop's bank account.

Dear UTBFox, Well...(to modify a previous post) it should be... Scoutmaster = program and COMMITTEE CHAIR = program support The friendly, congenial, helpful, courteous (etc) relationship between Scoutmaster and Committee chair is extremely important in creating... The Boy-Led Troop and The Boy-Led Patrol. If you re-read your posts you will discover you are involved in an "I versus THEM" situation. This is not helpful to The Boy-Led Troop and The Boy-Led Patrol..... Read the Scoutmaster HANDBOOK....Twice if necessary! You and your c

Shrinking? A little. Changing? A lot. The changes are called Learning for Life and Exploring.

Welcome to the Forum. Congratulations on getting trained. You sound a lot like me when my son joined Tiger Cubs in 1997. There were 46 boys who signed up that day. It has been a great adventure, and still is! Have fun Scouting.