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  1. I am a mixed bag. I am the consummate writer and logger. I will spit out three pages for a four day trip. All sorts of stories from funny to discussions had on the trail. My write-up has a bias though, in that some how no matter what happens their character was reinforced. For instance, it rained cows and horse and some tents had a little water, but it seemed to build character as the boys didn't complain - all that much. I know this robs some aspect of their own private memory so not everything goes into the write-up. However, at a Scoutmasters minute I will re-read or tell som
  2. Moderation by nature is always seeking the comfortable middle. Too hot for some, too cool for others and never just right for all. I believe in the judgement of Fscouter, that he was correct in deleting the posts. No great body of work was deleted. Maybe some elegant wit, but profound enlightenment on the subject matter - Nah! Now lets get back to debating whether forest green epaulets are different enough from light green or whether Jesus used the seven habits of highly effective people.
  3. Bob White, I know you see yourself as the chief apologist for all things scouting. Your main mantra on these forms is pretty much that the program is perfect and that it is just poorly implemented by ignorant leaders. That you will pick up on the term first class first year and say "there is no program", which being the literalist you are correct (I know those words are like nectar to your ears). But whether it is a emphasis or program is the subject of endless forum debate. Its defecto policy writen or not. The rest of your post is rant. We have had endless discussions about the the
  4. Putting the biblical discussion aside. Here is what I am saying. One I agree with those who have said that the structure of passing down decisions from SM to SPL to PL does not develop leadership skills but is rather management process. That EDGE is not a true academic description of leadership style but a dumbed down version the a hybrid and weak somewhere between participative and Lassie-fair. That the servant leadership style leads is not and can never be the one style fit all. That there is no real leading in the servant style only facility. That overemphasizing t
  5. Been to woodbadge, been to management school, been to Dale Carnegie, been in corporate America for 20 years. Yes BW I believe that servant leadership is situational ethics and will lead to poor group performance. That if we tell a young leader he must do what the group tells him to do we will have an under performing patrol. I also believe that participative leadership and servant leadership are as different as a bagel and a Beagle. I think that the reason servant leadership is pushed on the scouts is that then they are not leading but following and are thus not held responsible f
  6. In general the PL's handbook is worthless as a leadership training manual and in particular EDGE training is useles. The concept of Explaining, Demonstrating Guiding and Enabling are all nebulous and almost incomprehensible in differences. Theses EDGE concepts are all participative. The three basic leadership styles are authoritative, Participative and delegate as determined by founding studies in the 1930. Ok now the list is longer with charismatic, servant, Bureaucratic.... and on and on. But the 122 page PL handbook doesn't even discuss leadership styles until page 99. How the h
  7. Even if I agree with the argument that the patrol method is whithering I feel helpless to change it under the current BSA model. Without a written program in place that better emphasizes the patrol method I couldn't convince parents that some concept from older scout programs and presented by some guy on the Internet is the way to go. A few months ago we discussed how the NSP, crossover in March, summer camp, and the First class first year program all tie into weakening the patrol method. Weather you believe this or not is in material. This I have made up my mind on. I now would li
  8. $30K is no one else impressed that they were able to raise $30K? How do you do it? We are one outing away from a zero balance. And we have had three fundrasiers this year.
  9. When I initially wrote my ticket(s), my Troop guide strongly recommended that I gear it to district pop corn sales, helping plan district training and district campouts. The woodbadge senior patrol leader then came by and said no-no-no. His ticket needs to be written in regards to his current position. I was a Bear den leader. So my ticket was rewritten more as a Pack camping and training coordinator. My ticket was aimed at my unit not district. So your ticket items matter. Also I think woodbadgers get caught up in the like minded adults of other woodbagers. Running a well develope
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  11. This is a junk thread created by a poser. There in no value in this. There is no scout. There is no scout with a delima. We have a place for these types on non-value added threads its called the Issues Forum where angels on the head of pin are discussed daily. Move this junk there!
  12. Most certainly a troll! Likely a former scout in his early 20's wrestling with his own beliefs and yesterday afternoon bored with nothing to do.
  13. Companies with long legacies that failed: - Pan-am - American Motors - Woolworth's - Author Anderson - Sears - And yes Enron In all cases poor management over a period of time whittled away at the company's ability to adjust and react to the circumstances at hand. Many people and not just one contributed to these failures. One man was seldom able to turn around a failing company even with board approval. You do not even have board approval. Stop trying. Bad troops fail and new ones begin. Take photos and move on. Too much time will be spent trying to fight the resi
  14. That report and justification is just bogus. The bullet velocity of 300 feet per second is the max not the minimum. At the church where my sons play once a month they chronograph the gun to make sure all guns fire below the limit. At the fields I have played a religion does not begin to describe how they enforce the full face mask rule. Welts and bruises are part of the game. But do it once and if it bothers you don't do it again. I organized a company paint ball event and half the participants were women. They were told these fear mongering stories by other before they went about t
  15. Ugh! shoulder pockets where you sew on leader patches! Yuk! Otherwise they look like a general step in the right direction.
  16. Its a troop meeting and it's in one big hall. Some parents (moms mostly) hang around and wait out the meeting. Attempts to shoe away the moms have failed. The troop is new having formed only in October of last year so we don't have much of a cultural institution to draw upon. If we had a culture of adults staying away it would work. But we don't so then we need to use words like new policy and enforcement. I believe I do need to have a parents meeting to discuss this matter. It was the mother of the SPL yelling at him to speak up. I cringed and finally told her to go somewhere
  17. I have had one mom insult a scout and basically say he was good for nothing. Completely missing my suggestion to (after 3 hours) have another scout replace her son at the cash box during a rummage sale. I had another mom yell from the back of the room for her boy and my SPL to speak up, not once but twice. She would have done it a third time unless I had told her I had it covered. And now I got a mom emailing on her own suggestions for a troop motto. I don't want to lecture these women but they seem to be missing my more subtle approach.
  18. I called our council guy and followed what he said. He said Google the closet Farm supply store. They will carry 2"-3" diameter x 6.5' long, treated pine fence posts. Use these as your poles. I paid less than $2.50/ea and bought 20 pieces. You will need 1,200' of 1/4" Manila rope. Just buy the whole big box at the hardware store for $60.00. For wiping the ends I got fancy and went and got actual waxed wiping line from a boat supply store. It was a modest improvement over hemp twin sold at the craft store. Measure out 30' and 20' and 15' and paint the ends different colors. I
  19. Barry are you saying your district has a monopoly on confusion? How unfair! Our district seems to promote confusion.
  20. From OGE link on BOR The board of review is how the troop committee (or the Eagle Scout board of review) tracks the progress of a Scout to determine his understanding of the ideals of Scouting and how he applies them in daily life in the troop. If the board of review is for rank advancement, the board will satisfy itself that the Scout has done what he was supposed to do for that rank and will review with the Scout the requirements for the next rank. The board of review is also a way of reviewing the troop's progress. This review is not and should not be an examination or retest of
  21. OK, ....deep sigh..... I'll take the last post in this "All About Bob White" thread. Its a burden I know (wiping sweat from brow) but please don't post after me. Last word is Rosebud!
  22. Is this a discussion on how Bob White feels slandered? Is this a pity post? A Jeopardy game? What is the purpose of this thread?
  23. I would venture to guess that the list below is used more times than not during a BOR for First Class. Does this accurately align with the eight methods we are using? I say they anonymously written questions are a at best a mediocre scale to measure unit's or a scout's achievements. On average, how many Troop meetings do you attend each month? What part of Troop meetings are most rewarding to you? What is the Scout Slogan? What does it mean for a 1st Class Scout? Tell us about your last campout with the Troop. Where did you go? How did you help with meal preparation
  24. I am not sure of the purpose of a board of review. These people are typically moms of boys in the troop with little knowledge of scouting or at least the practice of scouting. So what are they to ask? Life questions or scouting details? I am sick of those cheat sheet. The same dumb questions over and over. When was Baden Powel born? How many years has scouting existed? Where in the world will either of those questions lead to a dialog where the BOR can examine and reflect upon the scouts' character, citizenship or Physical fitness let alone personal growth, leadership and the rest
  25. When I worked at a chemical plant the supervisory staff was taught Incident Command. I was told it was patterned of the a fire department's response to a situation. I am sure all our haz-mat team responders and EMT can chime in with more information. But here is my take from the 8 hour course I took ten years ago. When an incident occurs there is little in the way of experienced help on hand but as the situation grows more experienced help is added. So at the onset someone assume the role of incident commander and takes charge of scene. He appoints people to victim care, crowd contro
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