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  1. I guess I should've explained that this is just MY PERSONAL GEAR. I didn't include any of the troop gear (each crew will have six people in it. 3 Scouts and 3 adults with two total crews going up and going is seperate directions) because I don't have to pack it in my backpack. Like I said for the bug spray I have the one fluid ounce of the 100% DEET. One application last ten hours (so one day). I think, but not sure, that the one ounce should last the seven days. I don't think it'll take that much more. But am I wrong??? As far as sun block I have some SPF 45 which is suppose t
  2. Okay, here it is, my pack list. I have all this stuff packed in my backpack and want to know what I should take out and leave at home or add before it's too late. We are going to leave on August 5 and return on August 14 (so we are going to canoe from the 6th of August until about lunch time on the 14th.) Gloves for Paddling AA Flashlight 1 FL oz. of 100% Deet bugspray First Aid Kit Mole Skin 6 band-aids 3 alcohol pads bacitracin zinc ointment 12 advil pills Tackle Box Jiggs artifical "minnows" to put on jiggs steel leads 1 lure fish stri
  3. The first thing I would do is talk to the scouts that were involved. I would talk to the "victim" the SPL, and the ASPL (since he is the one that stopped it). I would find out exactly what happended. The next thing I would do is work with the Patrol Leader's Council to establish a way to make sure that this does not happen again. I would then determine if it was neccessary to replace the current Senior Patrol Leader. I would take input from the PLC, but the final decision would be mine. However, if I replaced the SPL I would leave it up to the PLC to determine who would take o
  4. Two important positions should be used when dealing with new scouts. The first should be a Troop Guide. The Guide should work with the new scouts for at least six months to make sure they understand the program, have fun, and that the Patrol Leader has the tools neccessary to run his patrol. The other position is an Assistant Scoutmaster that is the director of the New Scout Program. It should be their responsiblity to make sure that the scout's parents understand the program and answer their questions. As far as leadership goes at Summer Camp it is understandable for each one t
  5. More questions for me to answer. OldGrayEagle wants me to provide more information about this beating. Well the Senior Patrol Leader grabbed a chair and started hitting the scout in the head and legs before the Assistant Senior Patrol could stop it. Acco40 wants to know about nominations. Well in our troop a scout needs to be nominated by another scout in our troop. Lets say Jon wants to run then Jon needs to find somebody like Don to nominate him. Acco40 also mentioned selecting the ASPL. Well our troop allows the SPL to pick any scout he wants to be his ASPL. Therefore, in o
  6. I do need to add something that has not been put in yet. Seeing this at Summer Camp was hard for me. It has hard for me to believe and hard for me manage with. Why you might ask? The reason is simple. I was the one person who approached the scout about running. I told him that I thought he would do a great job and that I thought he was ready. He agreed and I nominated him. You might ask what was I doing asking a scout to run. Well that's simple also. The past Senior Patrol Leaders (we have only had a Boy Ran Troop for about 2 1/2 years so have only had 3 SPLs before
  7. I'm going to try and answer the questions that have been asked. Acco40 asked about the ASPL. The ASPL is a scout who ran against the SPL and lost the election, but not by many votes. The SPL and ASPL do not exactly make a point to talk and work together, as we have seen our SPL not at some meetings and the ASPL does not know what the plan is. Eamonn asked about Council JLT. The scout has not taken Council JLT. He simply worked his way up through different positions with the troop. Some problems I have with the advice given is that most of it calls for punishment. Our tr
  8. We have a patrol made up of the older members of the troop. During troop meetings the Senior Patrol Leader, Assistant Senior Patrol Leader, Troop Guides, and Jr. Assistant Scoutmasters are part of a different patrol called the Jr. Leadership Corps. Basically they aren't a patrol, but on the roster they are. During campouts the Jr. Leadership Corps and the Older Scout Patrol (mostly made up of scouts who are Star and up) are one of the same.
  9. I am the Jr. Asst. Scoutmaster and my father is the Scoutmaster of the troop.
  10. The troop elects the Senior Patrol Leader every six months. The troop doesn't have any certain standards or requirements, but usually scouts that have been to the Council JLT or have worked their way up the leadership ladder run. Back in March however a scout who worked his way up the leadership ladder (was a Asst. Patrol Leader, Quatermaster, Patrol Leader, and Assistant Senio Patrol Leader) was asked to run and he agreeded. Well he wasn't as ready or prepared to do the job as everyone thought. The Assistant Senior Patrol, Scoutmaster, and Jr. Assistant Scoutmaster have all tried
  11. Let me answer this question as a scout. The reason that some scouts do not take care of their personal equipment is because they don't take pride/sense of ownership in it. Part of it has to do with being plain lazy (which has been promoted by video games and the internet) and some of it has to do with them not spending their own money on the equipment (or having to earn it another way). I bet you if they took their CD Player or GameBoy with them though, they would take ownership in that. The reason that some parents don't do it is because they don't realize that it is a solution.
  12. My dad is the Scoutmaster of the troop I'm in. However, if we were in your troop, and they used the same guidelines for everyone, I would never be able to advance. I for one find that to be nothing but holding your son back just because he is who he is. I hope that your town has other scout troops that don't have leaders who are a bunch of not nice people and that your son has friends in one of these troops. If their is a troop like that go there. You, your husband, and most importantly your son do not need this and do not deserve it. (This message has been edited by a staff member.)
  13. Sorry about this. I was trying to look at the forum, but it wasn't showing. I figured putting a message up might help me see the board.
  14. As a Chapter Chief I must say that our Guide Books say that only adults that can be of help to the lodge/chapter shold be elected. In my mind if the Adult is doing anything from encouring scouts in his troop to go to OA functions to being a Advisor they are doing their job. All help from adults is welcome.
  15. As a Chapter Chief I'm going to try and answer the first question. I would not wear the Order of the Arrow Sash to either event. The Order of the Arrow Sash should be worn only to represent the Order of the Arrow. It is correct to wear it to Order of the Arrow Events such as meetings, Unit Elections & Promotions, Ceremonies, etc. In my mind it should not be worn during troop activities wear the Order of the Arrow is not meant to be directly represented. However, as an Order of the Arrow member he should also live with a Cheerful & helpful attitude. As far as washing th
  16. I'm a scout in a troop that is going to Ely, Minn. to canoe. I have a few questions that I would like some advice on and I feel that some of you would be great resources. My questions are as followed: What would you bring as far as personal (1 person) lunches go? (Give me some specific ideas) What type of personal equipment would you bring? (Again be specific) What would you bring for fishing? What would you do to prepare yourself? What are some of your experiences up there? If you could please help a scout out, it would be apperciated. Either answer the questi
  17. Rather or not you think your troop uses a permission slip, it does. The Class 1 and Class 3 both have act as a permission slip. The Class 1 Form says "I give permission for full participation in BSA programs, subject to limitations noted herein." It then goes into asking for the Signature of the Scout's parent or the adult participant. The Class 3 Form says "...I give my permission for full participation in BSA programs, subject to limitations noted herein." As for the Commitment our troop usually collects the money before the outing from the scouts going. As for actual per
  18. As an older scout let me say a few things: 1. I know that our Tour Permits discuss the fact that Boy Scouts can not drive to any events unless they are Regional or National events and have their parent's permission. Then it goes on to say that Ventures can drive to any Venture Activity with their parent's permission. 2. I would like to say that it is rare, at least in our Council, to have many 17 year olds still active as scouts. Usually they get their Eagle Award and work on getting ready for college. However, we have do have some 17 year old scouts proud of their scouting backgr
  19. I have to say that it is nice to know the rules and use them. However, there are times where Unit Leaders and their respective Troop Committee need to bend or break a rule in the effort of making a better program for their scouts. That is why you have a Unit Committee to interpurt the guidelines and regulations set forth by the National Committee. I also have to say that following rules in scouting makes it safer for everyone involved in the program. Heck, for that matter following rules in anything you do makes it safer and a lot more fun for everyone. Anybody that gives Mr. Whi
  20. As a scout my concern is if the boys are leading or the adults. Is the SPL doing his outlined job or is he sitting as a puppet for the committee/Scoutmaster to use? If the boys are getting to do there jobs and not have an adult do them for them then I don't think the selection process is a thing to highly be concerned about.
  21. TO All: I am a Jr. Assistant Scoutmaster who was recently given the responsiblity of being the Assistant Scoutmaster for the troop's New Scout Patrol(s). I know what the purpose of the new scout patrol is and I know some of the downfalls that can occur, but I still have some questions (I have read the Scoutmaster Handbook, the old copy of the Jr. Leaders Handbook, and look on the web a lot). 1. How do you get the differences between the Pack and Troop across to parents and new scouts? 2. How do you switch the patrol leaders every month. (Basically how do you decide who is it?)
  22. Laura You called the last election a popularity contest. Is it a possiblity that the boys in the patrol saw something about the people running that you, an adult leader, didn't see? Could they have possibly been more attentive, since they only have to focus on there patrol, whereas you should be looking at all the patrols? Could they had picked the scout that they thought would do the best job even though you didn't think the same? Is it possible that different people have different thoughts and points of view?
  23. Greetings. As a JASM I haven't had many chances to actually plan all the aspects of a trip. I have had my say, as SPL, in a few, and planned a 'for fun' campout, but never a High Adventure Winter Wilderness Survival campout. So far I have came up with a program and ran it past some of the Adult ASMs. They all thought that it was good, but I haven't talked to any Patrol Leaders in depth about it. So I don't know how good it actually is. So far I have planned that we will build our own shelters to sleep in, bring a limited equipment, and work on the Wilderness Survival Merit Ba
  24. Okay, I know that this may seem stupid, but since there are no stupid questions I will ask. What do most scouts wear to an OA Chapter meeting besides the OA Sash and tan shirt? Basically I mean pants and etc.
  25. Okay, just got a few things to say real quick. 1. I, as the 'troop coordinator for funerals' have decided upon the following uniform based on the troop uniform policy. BSA Tan Shirt BSA Merit Badge Sash Black Dress Pants Dress Shoes 2. Unfornutly, our troop has had about three funerals to do in the past year. He had the Executive Chief of our troop's father, an Asst. Scoutmaster who past away after a battle with a brain tumor, and now this one. The only reason that I have posed this topic is that at each funeral we have had a dispute on if Sashes were correct or not. It
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