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I would think that with this approach you have great difficulties getting your kids into the uniform. As BW is so fond of saying, the uniform is one of the methods of Scouting, to do that the boys need to wear the uniform more than twice a year. AND, the parents need to think of the uniform as a part of the boys participation in scouting. Sure its a $100.00 getup, but so are the sneakers and game boys that these kids strut around with all day, everyday. The uniform isnt precious, its special. Its special because its the single stand out item that puts the exclamation point on everyt

Yes instruct. This is not one where the democratic process rules. We either will, or will not wear the uniform. We do not allow it to become a topic of discussion. With the exception of camping trips, we do everything in uniform. Even then our boys and leaders are instructed to bring their uniform for dinner, campfire, and Scouts Own. The committee decides and thats the way it is. Weve not had a single uniform piece go missing on any of our outings. Sometimes they go home with the wrong person but they are always accounted for. As I noted above, I dont advocate going camping or en

I am curious, how many of you instruct your cubs to wear their uniforms on trip s like this one? For those of you that dont, why not?

I certainly understand business trips.....been there, done that, too often. And I dont' really mean to imply that they should spend two weeks in a tent, in northern Maine in mid October. But we do have some outstanding camp facilities throughout the country. Some of these facilities rival a mid range hotel or conference center. I just think that there is a better way to do this. Although if national is paying the way maybe I should say, "Who cares!" or "So What On the other hand, maybe if there was some discomfort associated with the training, they would get the idea to present the

I am still learning about just what it is that the DE does all day. So far I have figured this much out: 1) They have a thankless job 2) They work too many hours 3) They dont get paid enough 4) They do what no one else wants to do 4) Im not sure that even they know what it is that theyre supposed to be doing and 5) They are the glue that keeps the program moving ahead in spite of all the big egos, loudmouths, and other competing interests that we volunteers have. Having said that Ill continue.. We have a new DE, you all know the kind, a very nice y

By the shear number of cubs that were not in uniform I would have to say that this had nothing to do with the cost of uniforms. I happen to think that this is a training issue.

When you force someone to perform an act that is against his will, just to retrieve something that is his to start with, it is abusive. In addition, this behavior is not a harbinger of Scoutlike behavior. There is nothing positive or educational about it for the boys who does not want to perform for your enjoyment! That my friend is something so simple that even a true anarchist could understand.

Singing for a lost item is like forcing that very timid and shy CS to perform in a skit. Some kids like it and some dont. If the boy is afraid and embarrassed by it, then he his humiliated and we cant be involved with that kind of stuff. The issue here is about forcing the boy to do it, not about the act of singing for a lost item. Some boys love the stage may thrive on this kind of thing; others however are petrified and will not do it regardless of whats at stake. To force that child is hazing at the very least and abusive at its worst.

Two weekends ago we went to Battleship Cove for an overnighter. The instruction to our pack was that all of the boys should be in uniform: while traveling, while on the ship and then next day while traveling home. Not very complicated or difficult, and with almost no exceptions our boys and leaders were properly uniformed. I was astounded to see that our boys were the only cubs in uniform. We were 50 out of probably 450 CS on the ship that weekend. There were some other leaders in uniform but no cubs and there was a BS Troop who changed into their uniforms for dinner. So whats w

I give you an A for ambition. Its mid October and youre taking a group of rookies to Philmont in just 9 (or so) months. You have a lot of work ahead of you. I suspect that you are at a loss, since there seems to be no backpacking experience in the Troop. So youll have to go by the recommendations of other people. Here is my suggestions. Follow the 4000/4800 cu in suggestions. Take the troop, and their parents, to a sporting goods store that has knowledgeable backpackers on staff. Get the boys fitted and educate the parents in the process. Price is not, should not be the deciding factor wh

I seem to remember something like those dates published in the nationally distributed BSA literature.

The rules are what they are, and, you have responsibilities with your son and the pack. You cannot take this boy. Esspecially since he has the potential to be a high maintanence kid. Additionally, arent there restrictions on Cub Scout overnights? I cant find the dates, but something tells me that CS can not camp overnight from Oct. 15- April 1. Can someone check this?

absolutly yes You shouldn't even have to ask the question!

We dont do permission slips for local outings like this. Our Cubs only do permission slips for out of district/council outings or overnight events. As for who is marching in the parade, an adult must be with the Tigers. The adult doesnt necessarily have to walk with the Tiger, but should be within shouting distance. The Tigers will need a lot of coaxing to make it down the road without swerving off course or slowing down to a crawl. Typically the parents parallel the kids by walking along the curb while the kids are in the middle of the road with the den leaders. Just like any other acti

On the flip side, it would be very nice to have the CO step forward and ask for control of our money. Thats one less committee position that we would have to fill, AND, its a great way to get the CO involved with your pack.

Your Camp committee job shouldnt include becoming Cub Scout Day Camp Director. Youll be involved with promotion the Day Camp, budgets, and possibly with the site selection(s). But, the Day Camp Directors job is a separate job. When you get the Camp Committee Brochures, one of the first things you should notice is that it takes a lot of people to make the committee work. Start thinking about people who can help you, and support your efforts in doing a good job.

I am also wondering what a CA is? My den meets weekly on Tuesdays. Our Pack meetings are the third Friday of the month. We do have den meetings on the week when the pack meetings occur. Without question, the weekly den meeting is the way to go. The boys bond better, and if they have somewhere else to be on a particular Tuesday, they wont miss that much. It gives us more time to play and do fun things, as opposed to working on achievements all the time. It also allows you to take more time in doing your achievements. I also think that attendance is better with the weekly meetings. We do ou

No Bob, not at all. I suggest that you go back and reread my posts with a more open mind. As for the professional and salaries, this is not an original thought on my part. I'm just echoing something that I've heard quite a few times in the last few weeks.

I agree that paper doesn't work, at least not as a single shot. Did you ever here about the rule of 3&7? People need to hear things 3 times before they begin to listen; then, they need to hear it 7 more times before they'll take any actions on what they've heard. That's todays world. I email everything!! And I follow it up with reminders. Still, I often hear, "I didn't know about that outing". Some people are just not wired to listen.

They are owned by Councils, not mine. They are not private camps. I suspect your comment about the mouse refers to Disney World. I am not familiar with any other property in that part of the country run by a mouse. Lets just say that I don't think any Scout Camp is challenged by Disney World. $200.00 per week vs. $1000.00 dollars per week put them in different competitive brackets. Bob, you seem have missed the point entirely. Perhaps you're in a part of the country that has not experienced this problem. Maybe soon these camps will be supplying free transportation from your area. Th

BW, Check your privite messeges. Foto

Im really glad to see this thread competing with the homosexual issue. Focus, focus, focus!

I'll finish for Scoutnut, that's the Unit Commissioners job. In this case it sounds like all the UC needs to do is to cordially, get the Pack people and the Troop people together. Sure the District Committee should be aware of whats going on, but its the Commissioners job to make it right, or suggest that the unit fold. The difficulties here are obvious. How good is the UC? Will other commissioners support the UC if needed? etc. etc.

Yes No BW, I think your question highlights magnitude of what I'm talking about. These are Scout camps, but not like any camp that most people are familiar with.

Yes, I guess that it's relative. I am talking about camps that do 5000-6000 (or maybe more) per summer with an 8 week program. In one case where the majority of campers come from out of council. We have two of these each about 300 miles either side of our own in council camp. They are camp machines, churning kids in and out by the thousands. Pristine, and maintained like an exclusive private club. I don't mean to imply that they are bad camps, if fact I'm sure that the program is very good. But it is undeniable that these camps and camps like them are having a huge and ongoing detr