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  1. You are right on Narrticong, I remember trading both CSP's and OA flaps as a scout. My dad got me hooked on it, after going with him to a few tradorees he gave me all of his OA flaps and told they are yours now go get more. Traded for what I needed, but more or less for some of the real colorful and cool looking patches that were out back then. Wouldn't think of not going to summer camp without a few patches for trading. Went to the 77 Jamboree and traded like crazy. Also had other scouts and adults who I traded with through the mail. What a fun activity. Now you just can't seem to interest th
  2. The answer is real simple, I have all the scouts CPR trained within the first year of Boy Scouts. Having some older leaders along, including myself I would like to know that the scouts know and can do this if the issue comes up. Also covers all the MB's that call for CPR. If getting CPR trained is not do able in your area, then having the scouts do it for each badge is not too much to ask for something so important in both scouting and the streets. Having to do it over and over also means that they keep sharp on the skills too.
  3. Definetly have the PLC change it's entire program to accomidate this one boy. Jeez!! I have had boys who need to leave for other activities be them family, school or religious. They let me know this beforehand. Not when they want to leave. Part of being a Boy Scout is learning responsibilty, if all you are willing to do is have the rest of the troop alter their plans in order to try and keep this scout on the trip. What has this scout learned? Not a darn thing other then I get my way again. I guess that will prepare him for life won't it? The fact that the other scouts see this and have quest
  4. I am dealing with something very similar to your dilemma, Our troop competes with one other troop for the cubs from 3 neighboring packs, non of them associated with either troop. This past spring one pack only had 1 W2 scout and he was not going into Boy Scouts. Another had 12 boys graduating, had them stop by for a visit and talked with them, I happened to notice that the leader was wearing an eagle knot and right away thought we should have no problem at least getting some of the boys along with the leader. Our troop is boy led the other is adult led, they also have about 65 boys registered
  5. I too agree summer camp for many troops is just an advancement week. We have never had problems with getting close to 100% participation on any of our troop's summer camp expierences. Of course we don't go back to the same old camp year after year and we don't go primarily to work on merit badges.Plus the boys are involved in the selection. As a scout, summer camp was a troop/camp time. Program was mainly chosen by the troop and PLC. You had troop times at lake/pool, boating, shooting, troop campfire as well as the camp wide fire. The last two years that I was a scout I did not work on one sin
  6. Isn't that the time when the new CSP came out to replace the old R/W. I was scout when they made the big change in 72 and remember trading and buying these new council shoulder patches. One thing I will say is I may not agree with many of the changes they made then, but one thing they did do was bring in a whole lot of color to the uniform.
  7. Couldn't agree with more Mafaking. From what I have heard though is that more and more councils are looking for those adults working their tickets to help and volunteer for other programs. Some have become down right dependent on it. One question though, How can you have a boy-led program if more of your adults are trained then the youth?
  8. Although there is no ticket for the boys to do they do have the vision that they must work on. This though is something that the SM should work closely with the scout on. I have seen too many adults send boys to these expecting to get back trained junior leaders, and they are, but they still need to be guided by the SM to that scouts vision.
  9. 1. No I earned my eagle just before my 18th and was moved to the adult position of ASM. 2. yes 1977
  10. I guess sending them to another council's NYLT would be up to the council running the course. We have been sending our boys to an out of council NYLT for the last 4 years. One of the first boys to do this is now on the staff for the course. Our council did not run any courses and we still wanted to get our scouts trained. It is just like woodbadge in that participants for them can be out of council too. It's all according to when the course is being run, in our area the spring and late summer are most popular. We made the mistake and sent boys once they had been elected to a position, felt tha
  11. we have not attended our council in 10 years, camp is over crowded, over priced and a merit badge mill. We go to other camps, but do not go to the same one back to back. The adults and PLC help select the camps, those that meet our requirements are then voted on by the entire troop, the winner is where we will go. In order for camps to qualify they must offer enough variety and programs for the different age groups, a first year program is not really necessary because we do not use them, we run our own first year. There must also be some more challenging activities for the older scouts. We wil
  12. mmhardy first off BSA does not have any ban of the use of cell phones, don't think they would ever step that way either. This is a troop issue. I have seen troops that have no problem allowing their boys free use of cell phones others have more strict rules and some even ban their use entirely. I put this question to our troop PLC, I let them know my position on it, but if they would work out a solution that they could all agree with I would be more then willing to follow it, it is their scouting. After about 30 minutes they came to me with their rules. 1. Cell phones must be on vibrate duri
  13. Daddy-O writes, I think its a wonderful idea (surprise surprise). No it wouldn't surprise me at all. Too many people want to rush and get requirements out of the way, I've even had parents that showed me their sons schedule for their complete time as a Boy Scout. When I cut the grass I do it as fast as I can. I dont want to be an expert; I want to be finished! From my reading (and very little else admittedly) It seems that the biggest problem with your organization is attrition, not too many inexperienced Eagles. I want to get the grass done fast too, but it should also
  14. Then I did not interprit the post correctly. If she wasn't willing to give any further info then I too would have felt there was something fishy going on. I would have handled it the same as you did, sorry.
  15. Somebody needs to chill a little. My point was that until there is some kind of documentation what does a parent do? Should I have cut my son off from all activities and have him locked in the basement? I explained to all what was going on and that once I had the proper documents I would hand a copy over to them. The fear and stress that I had as to whether or not this man and my ex would try and take my son away I would not wish on my worst enemy. Oh and yes I would go above the law to protect and safe guard my son. Wouldn't you?
  16. Pack15nissan, I would have left your pack too. When my ex-wife and I were first divorced we had joint custody of our son. Later she met someone and he moved in with her. Found out that when she was not at home her boyfriend was using cigarettes to disciplin my son. Until all the proof and court things were done I had no documentation that said I had sole custody. The only thing I could do to protect my son was to request to the school, YMCA, coaches, and Cub pack that the mother had no right to take or be with my son. Once everything was said and done I was awarded custody and the mother
  17. Missed one point on this. The main purpose as I was told is to see if the scout is leading his life outside the troop by the scout oath and law.
  18. Many councils do this and their EBOR differently. In our council they give a sheet that lists the 12 points of the scout law and how the person would grade them on this, from poor to excellent. There is also an area for written comments, it then asks if they approve the scout for Eagle. I don't see this as much different then the refrences that an employer or higher education school may ask for. Aren't we supposed to be getting these boys ready to be adults? I did have one boy who was home schooled and just asked him to give one to another person or friend. Also when it comes to parents who ar
  19. I think a big part of the problem is scouters, parents and scouts who believe that the only thing there is to scouting is achieving Eagle. Once this is completed its on to something else. A scouts advancement is basically controlled by one person, the scout. As SM I can have all the conferences I want to discuss this but the final decision is up to him. There are leaders who feel that earning eagle, at say 14 or 15 that they lack the leadership or expierence. Those are not requirements as long as the scout has completed the requirements that national has set for Eagle or any other rank, to hol
  20. we split up our other POR leaders amongst the ASPL's, Chaplain Aid and Quartermaster are with one ASPL, the ASPL updates and makes sure that these other leaders are up to speed on what is coming up or what may be needed from them for a meeting or activity. We also use them to help out and work with any scout skill that a patrol leader may be having problems with. All of the ASPL's in our troop have either served as patrol leader or Instructor. (a requirement in our troop for being SPL or ASPL).
  21. I would have no problem spending $40 or $50 to show appreciation for receiving $5000. That show of appreciation may be helpful later down the line too. Heck I'd give them something for less too.
  22. From the look of the original post, maybe what is happening is the troop is taking its own trip to the Jambo. There are no rules to visit and many troops make the journey to look and see what is going on.
  23. Being held back does not add anything to it. He must be 11 or have completed the 5th grade. If he completed 5th grade and is not yet 11 he could still join, if he is 11 and has not completed the 5th grade he can still join to the key word here is "or".
  24. Hey buddy talk to your politicians they are the ones that have dumped on the american worker and companies. I too live in Pa and I work for a company that makes steel pipe. We are losing business and customers not to american companies but to steel pipe made in China. Until something happens and we get some Patriotic leaders in D.C. you and I will just have to settle for foreign made products.
  25. I had a boy who was pretty much in the same situation. The main reason he joined was also to be with friends that were his age. After he had made the choice and filled out the application I had a little sit down with him and the boys that talked him into joining. It was agreed that he would be a member of their patrol and they would work with him and get him up to speed. In 8 months he was 1st class. At the first summer camp he attended he worked on merit badges not a first year program. He aged out as a life scout this past summer. He is now one of my younger ASM. Funny his friends are now go
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