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    • I disagree about the outcome. It is very good for LDS. They are no longer throwing $$ toward an organization for which a large portion of their male youth weren't actively involved, and the adult leadership demands were overtaxing. The potential for the LDS to attract non-LDS families is as high as it's ever been. If TL/USA is any indication, they are poised to vacuum up a lot of youth in families with a restrictive sexual ethic. On the other hand, those tens of thousands who might want their boys to be brought up with a mind toward a more permissive sexual ethic have not flocked to BSA.
    • I don't think one could disagree with this statement: “The reality there is we didn’t really leave them; they kind of left us,” said M. Russell Ballard, acting president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “The direction they were going was not consistent to what we feel our youth need to have ... to survive in the world that lies ahead for them.” One could certainly argue whether they agree with stated positions of the Mormon Church, but they are what they are.  Fact is the BSA has made changes in membership requirements.   The BSA felt they needed to make changes to be more inclusive, the Mormon Church feels they need to adhere to their values.  In this case both groups are in many ways correct.  The outcome (in my opinion) is not good for either group.  BSA is losing 20% of their membership while the Mormon Church is becoming more insular and interacting less with non-Church groups.
    • Agreed.  It often felt like a square peg for a round hole.  Never really fully matching.  It was more LDS used BSA as a youth program as the program was 70% matching.  It seems more a left-over relationship from the 1920s-1960s.  But as society evolved, the LDS faith development program needed something else.   I don't view it as LDS strong arming or BSA leaving LDS.  Rather, society changed.  LDS could have chosen to use BSA within the context of LDS but instead decided it was finally time to create their own branded youth faith development program. It may have a huge financial impact, but it should not be surprising or even debatable.  The program and needs drifted apart over many decades. 
    • That ought to cover exec salaries for another what, five years?
    • All this talk of drunken sailors... it's like y'all have met some before. Revenue neutral is the best way to go.   Mike
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