From On Scouting; an interview with a new guy from the National Meeting

[Eagle94-A1]

5 hours ago, Jameson76 said:

No, it is an attitude issue. Sadly I have seen too many pros over the years who could give a flip about the program and volunteers, they just want FOS dollars and membership increases.

Fixed it for you

You got me.

[Tron]

20 hours ago, yknot said:

All volunteers are in decline, but I think your viewpoint is part of why volunteers are declining so much in scouting. Volunteers are largely viewed and treated as unpaid employees and this is a condition pretty unique to scouting. 

As far as YPT, there has been a lot of confusion and many complaints down in the weeds about the process this year. I do think younger generations have less patience today for putting up with the kinds of organizational dysfunction and poor leadership that older generations did. They also expect technology to be their friend and for any portal or interface to be functional, user friendly, and seamless. 

My viewpoint is based on literally talking with people and making sure they understood what was coming and they blew it off. I'm a unit trainer and I literally had a leader tell me this was their excuse to exit the leadership and blame national when I reminded him 72hrs out and asked if he needed any help.

The quality of our leadership is garbage; I can't do the training for the other leaders and (in my unit at least) they refused help prior to the cutoff and are now blaming national for screwing up.

[Eagle94-A1]

51 minutes ago, Tron said:

The quality of our leadership is garbage; I can't do the training for the other leaders and (in my unit at least) they refused help prior to the cutoff and are now blaming national for screwing up.

The quality of out professional leadership is garbage, they keep changing requirements and processes without any consideration for the volunteers, creating further problems and hassles for volunteers to deal with.

 

Fixed it for you.

Edited yesterday at 03:00 PM by Eagle94-A1

[PACAN]

One of the big issues to me with the "professionals" is that the ones making decisions especially at the national level are not associated with a unit and have no accountability to the consequences of new or changing policies to units.  The volunteers at the national level who "vote...all in favor say aye"  are guilty as well.

The "blame the units" is commonplace.

[Eagle94-A1]

17 hours ago, PACAN said:

One of the big issues to me with the "professionals" is that the ones making decisions especially at the national level are not associated with a unit and have no accountability to the consequences of new or changing policies to units.  The volunteers at the national level who "vote...all in favor say aye"  are guilty as well.

The "blame the units" is commonplace.

And those national volunteers who do have unit connections, and voice their objections get outvoted and eventually removed. I knew one national member working on the 2015 Cub Scout program. Although he crossed over to Scouts, he still had a lot of Cub Scout connections with his old pack. He asked for ideas, shared thoughts, etc. the 2015 Cub Program was a game changer. It was more active, required a lot more planning to coordinate things with the different dens, BUT it worked if you prepared.  2015 program got watered down in December 2016, and he was removed from the committee. In fact no one from the committee knew anything about the changes until after they were announced.

[PACAN]

Thanks...you made my point for me.   Those axed volunteers go back and spread the word and we lose more volunteers.   

 

Recent resetting the YPT date to 5/31 to a large majority of adults is another case where a national decision is driving more volunteers away since they see no value added.