Eagle Certificates

[skeptic]

4 hours ago, scoutldr said:

My Eagle certificate is signed by Richard Nixon.  I am just as proud of that as anyone.  Let's leave politics out of this discussion. The POTUS is the POTUS.

That is actually the best response and I apologize for bringing it in.  Separating frustration from places it should be left from.  

[Tron]

It's more than just POTUS signature. My council has had difficulty getting anything back from national in less than 8 weeks since the turn of the year. 

[Arkie]

On 3/24/2025 at 11:06 PM, BinTharDunThat said:

One must wonder if, in addition to the other areas of focus, there is a perception within the Administration that a name change in the name of inclusiveness, as manifested on the new certificates and the new patch, is indicative of DEI/woke paradigms and slowing any assistance is a method to create angst before leveraging abandonment of such updates.

Methinks you're overthinking this.  Having worked in DC-adjacent positions over the years, I submit this to be among the least of worries/priorities.  

[BinTharDunThat]

Methinks I may not be overthinking this.   It’s a brand new world out there.  Having the signature of a Honorary leader is slowing down recognitions. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna200141

[Arkie]

I hear you and did not communicate clearly.  My original point was that getting the President's signature on Eagle certificates was probably not high on the list of his team's priorities.  My instinct is that any "woke" issues the current SECDEF has with our organization is separate from that.  Entirely possible the two will merge at some point, though!  

[BinTharDunThat]

Agreed.  It’s frustrating that BSA did not have a plan sufficient to secure approval and a signature well in advance of Jan 20, recognizing the Electoral College, or Election Day, or the party conventions.  Seems unlikely every prior 4 years has been perfect.  
We just taught the Scouts the leadership skill of planning at ILST.  Wish National had this skill set as it delays cards etc for new Eagles.  Our current challenge.

Edited April 14 by BinTharDunThat

[Tron]

5 hours ago, BinTharDunThat said:

Agreed.  It’s frustrating that BSA did not have a plan sufficient to secure approval and a signature well in advance of Jan 20, recognizing the Electoral College, or Election Day, or the party conventions.  Seems unlikely every prior 4 years has been perfect.  
We just taught the Scouts the leadership skill of planning at ILST.  Wish National had this skill set as it delays cards etc for new Eagles.  Our current challenge.

You're running ILST, basically lightyears ahead of most of this organization. 

[Eagle1993]

7 weeks since my son's Eagle BOR and no word from National.  This is breaking the records we saw during Covid....

[E V Augustine]

I suspect the unwarranted delay in updating the Eagle Scout certificates results from the lack of diligence by all parties involved.  Further, I do not believe this results from a change in presidential administration.    These delays have been going on since the third quarter of 2024.  I recently attended the Eagle Court of Honor for a Scout who completed the first semester of his college freshman year before receiving his certificate. 

In my own troop a Scout completed his Eagle Board of Review March 10, 2025.  The documents were submitted to the council the next day.  To date he has not even received the letter provided in an earlier post.

A further complication is that the Eagle Scout insignia set is a controlled item sold at the Scout Shop only on presentation of the certificate.  This week I went to the Scout Shop to purchase his insignia.  I had the Scoutbook Troop Recognition Report showing his rank date and my own Eagle Scout card from 1970.  My thinking was that if the purchase were denied for lack of proper documentation, I would claim the purchase as my own to replace my insignia that had been lost.  Fortunately, there were no difficulties with the purchase as I was not the first to effect a solution.  The Scout is now planning his Eagle Court of Honor.