Eagle94-A1 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 My troop acquired a bunch of gear. Some too old and torn up to be of any use, some old but still quite usable. And some that are like new. Two of the old but usable items are vintage BSA backpack frame, specifically the "Large Cruiser" and the the smaller L-shaped "Frontier Frame" What the troop is looking to do is get a hip belt, and possibly updated straps, so that we can loan it out for those getting started in backpacking. Any ideas on which hipbelts and pads top go after? Only thing I can thing of is going after old Camp Trail hipbelts and straps since they made the BSA frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat77 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Eagle, I think you are on the right track--a lot of the Camp Trails stuff would work just fine. Just a thought/memory--the old hip belts were very primitive by today's standards. Some weren't even padded, they were just web belts with buckles. Glad to hear the old equipment will be back on the trail. Edited January 15, 2017 by desertrat77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think kelty might have hip belts and shoulder straps which would fit as well. Could be a neat project for a patrol to make some too if they were so inclined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat77 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think kelty might have hip belts and shoulder straps which would fit as well. Could be a neat project for a patrol to make some too if they were so inclined. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blw2 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I'm thinking scuba diving shops would be a source for cheap webbing belts and buckles similar o what I remember old packs having for waist belts... like this https://www.amazon.com/Scuba-Choice-Diving-Webbing-Plastic/dp/B006UMNWES/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484579846&sr=8-4&keywords=scuba+weight+belt a bit of retrofitting required, but maybe an option Edited January 16, 2017 by blw2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 https://www.rei.com/c/hip-belts?r=c&ir=category%3Ahip-belts&page=1 https://www.rei.com/c/backpack-shoulder-straps?r=c&ir=category%3Abackpack-shoulder-straps&page=1 Why not just buy the correct equipment to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blw2 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 well there you go.... well, cost maybe, and it looks like those might still require some rigging to attach to an old frame but much better than a diving weight belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I find that the pack itself often falls apart faster than the belt and/or straps. Jury rig one out of two partials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemlaw Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Back about a hundred years ago when I was a scout, my scoutmaster replaced the hip belt on his backpack with a car seat belt. I assume he got it at a junkyard. It looked kind of ridiculous, and maybe it weighed more than the original equipment, but it worked a lot better than what anyone else had, and it was a lot easier to put on and off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat77 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Back about a hundred years ago when I was a scout, my scoutmaster replaced the hip belt on his backpack with a car seat belt. I assume he got it at a junkyard. It looked kind of ridiculous, and maybe it weighed more than the original equipment, but it worked a lot better than what anyone else had, and it was a lot easier to put on and off. Now that you mention it, gear was not as "Gucci" back then as it is today. It just had to be functional, and if it ugly as sin or weighed a little extra, that was okay. Kids backpacking with ancient canvas packs, lots of heavy GI surplus items, etc. It it worked, it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Now that you mention it, gear was not as "Gucci" back then as it is today. It just had to be functional, and if it ugly as sin or weighed a little extra, that was okay. Kids backpacking with ancient canvas packs, lots of heavy GI surplus items, etc. It it worked, it worked. "Government surplus: if it's designed for combat, it may survive Boy Scouts." I still have my old A.L.I.C.E. pack that I did two 50 milers with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat77 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 "Government surplus: if it's designed for combat, it may survive Boy Scouts." I still have my old A.L.I.C.E. pack that I did two 50 milers with. ALICE rocks! Among my artifacts, things that as a scout I faithfully packed for each campout and backpacking trip: - WWII mess kit - GI 1 quart green canteen, 2 each (my sole water storage devices for a Philmont trek) - Korea War era canteen cup These items are rock solid, built like a tank. Now and again I sip my morning coffee from the canteen cup. I know technology has come a long ways. But.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 One weekend outings it's only the ALICE or BSA Yucca packs for me. Only if I'm going to be out for a week does the modern backpack make it off he shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 ALICE rocks! Among my artifacts, things that as a scout I faithfully packed for each campout and backpacking trip: - WWII mess kit - GI 1 quart green canteen, 2 each (my sole water storage devices for a Philmont trek) - Korea War era canteen cup These items are rock solid, built like a tank. Now and again I sip my morning coffee from the canteen cup. I know technology has come a long ways. But.... Bear Cub son snuck in on older brothers' Castaway/ Wilderness Survival weekend back in December and had a blast. For Christmas, he got USGI canteen, canteen cup, case, and a Rothco stove for the rig. Happy Camper One weekend outings it's only the ALICE or BSA Yucca packs for me. Only if I'm going to be out for a week does the modern backpack make it off he shelf. I hear ya. Up until very recently, I had to use my modern pack because I was lending it to oldest son. He bought an 1980s Coleman external frame, and was planning on lending A.L.I.C.E. to middle son. Wife found another 1980s Coleman external friend sized just right for the new Scout. So now I have A.L.I.C.E. All to myself for 2 more years, unless youngest gets his on pack too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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