GernBlansten 10 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 The problem with Judge Moore's display of the big 10 was its prominence in the foyer of the courthouse. It was not a simple plaque on the wall, it was the centerpiece and quite noticeable. It isn't hard for an avowed atheist to feel that Judge Moore would not rule objectively in his case. He demonstrated a clear bias towards religious people. All the atheist would have to do in his court was to proclaim his beliefs and if the judge ruled against him, he would have a strong case for appeal no matter the merits. Besides, of the 10 commandments, only 3 are part of our criminal code. 4 if you include adultery. The rest are religious rules and cannot be enforced or punished the courts. At least not yet. I don't have a problem with the depiction of Moses on the SCOTUS building because of what Merlyn has stated, its part of a long list of historical rules and doesn't specify any for the court to follow (blank tablets). Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Actually its not just the Atheist that may have been intimidated by Moore's display. Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Baha'is Meher Babas and Zoroastrians all whose faiths do not include the 10 commandments may have not figured to get a fair shake in the Judge's courtroom. For a bright shiny new dime, what does the above mentioned faiths have in common besides being non-christian? Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 BrentAllen writes: The wording is a little different and the order changed, but the 10 commandments are basically the same. If there isn't some kind of numbering, how did they all arrive at "10"? Because they all wanted to arrive at 10. If you want a Spinal Tap version that goes up to 11, just combine features of the different versions. And they ARE different. The Catholic version (based on Deuteronomy) doesn't have a prohibition against graven images, for example. I'm curious - as an atheist, what do you care what the 10 commandments say? It's all just mythology, right? Yes, but Ed seems to be under the delusion that the commandments are listed in the supreme court building. They aren't. Hey Ed, would you object to a city council displaying some rules from the koran, based on the argument that the supreme court building depicts a koran, so that makes it ok? Link to post Share on other sites
firstpusk 10 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Moore campaigned on a narrow sectarian basis. One can be a christian and find his approach threatening. He violated federal court orders and the financial procedures of the Alabama courts. He felt he was above the law. I guess that is perfectly fine when you are closer to God than everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
Trevorum 24 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 OGE, OK, I'll play! How about this: they all originated in agrarian societies in Asia. Not a single African, American, Australian, or European faith among them. Also, no animistic or shamanistic faiths. Do I win the dime? Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Merlyn, Not a problem! As long as every faith has the same opportunity. Freedom of religion! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Trev, that's not the answer I was looking for, but if you PM me I will send you my address and if you send me a self addresed stamped envelope, I will send you your dime as it's technically correct. The answer I was going for is that those faiths I listed all have religious award medals sanctioned by the BSA to be worn on the uniform Link to post Share on other sites
Trevorum 24 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 OGE, How about I just take store credit? Link to post Share on other sites
GernBlansten 10 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Dang OGE, was going to submit, "all of these religions have never had their sacred rules removed from a US public building". Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 GB, you can get your dime under the same conditions as Trev Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Ed writes: Merlyn, Not a problem! As long as every faith has the same opportunity. Freedom of religion! But they don't, Ed. Typically, city officials put up some display that includes their religion - they don't create a public forum open to the public. Judge Moore refused other groups that wanted to put up displays in the Alabama supreme court. Do you agree that city councils shouldn't put up a religious display they agree with and refuse permission for a similar display that they disagree with? Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I already answered that, Merlyn. Now what are you going to do about the Ten Commandments in the SCOTUS building? Oh wait - you already answered that - nothing! Then leave all the other Ten Commandment displays alone on all the other government buildings. Freedom of religion! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
Novice_Cubmaster 10 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Have you ever noticed that no Jewish groups go around making a fuss about keeping the 10 commandments on display at public buildings? Since we had them first, you'd think we'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep them up. My guess is, after centuries of having someone else's religion shoved in our faces, we're unwilling to do the same to others. (Yep, the "Golden Rule" was ours first, too). NC Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Scouter 11 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Ya know, Novice has a point. Some of we Christians can be quite passionate and zealous in our beliefs at times, and we can inadvertantly trample upon the beliefs of others... Link to post Share on other sites
Prairie_Scouter 10 Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 Sometime inadvertantly, and sometimes not so inadvertantly Link to post Share on other sites
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