Screaming Irony

[FScouter 24]

"Bob: Lighten up, will ya? "

 

Regardless of which forum that guy JKNY posted his comments, the question of his purpose is valid. I see no other purpose other than another attempt to drag Scouting through the mud and to start an argument among the rest of us. I picture him sitting at his computer monitor grinning in glee at the negativism he starts and the rest of us perpetuate.

 

So, anyone going to play along?

 

[johndaigler 10]

"Screaming Irony" gives me a headache. I prefer my irony to "mockingly whisper".

 

jd

[jkhny 10]

NOT "making light" of pedophiles vs homosexuality, though an intelligent conversation on the topic seems impossible in BSA. MANY in BSA would make NO distinction between these two people and call them both "gay" - they were interested in males sexually. How many religious sites screaming about "deviates" make this same association? Many defending BSA's exclusion of homosexuals cite "protecting boys" as a justifiable reason - noting that the pedophile crisis in the Catholic Church proves their point.

 

Note: NO opinion is being expressed by me either way on this or BSA may decide to throw me out.

 

But that is NOT my point in raising this.

 

Many companies retain the right to terminate someone for cause if they commit an illegal act.

 

Given the standards in "Procedures for Maintaining Standards of Membership" Smith should have IMMEDIATELY been "disassociated" from BSA in ANY way shape or form just by the "credible" evidence possessed by the FBI. And having pled guilty, there is no "excuse" for him NOT being terminated.

 

Even ignoring the pension issue - Why wasn't Smith FIRED?

 

Why did BSA let him "retire?"

 

If St. Jean was FIRED, Smith sure should have been FIRED.

 

 

Ignore the pension issue - though other companies have denied retirement benefots from executives terminated for cause. And distributing kiddie porn sure SHOULD be "cause" for terminating ANYONE's association with BSA - volunteer or paid.

 

This was raised to show the utter hypocrisy here.

 

The kiddie porn distributor who fired the gay guy was NOT fired himself.

 

BSA seems NOT to see that many people are appalled that the Head of Youth Protection was NOT "FIRED" or "TERMINATED" by BSA. But then BSA seems not to see just how bad it looks to have the head of youth protection distributing kiddie porn. Any in-depth investigation of his history to MAKE SURE there was no cause for concern in BSA? Are you SURE he didn't act on this? BSA is sure NOT looking real hard or they would have noticed their own statements on Smith were full of holes.

 

Yet a seemingly gay staffer with 30 odd years service (but no illegal acts) WAS fired. If St. Jean did do something illegal to jutify this - you can bet BSA would make that known.

 

WHY are people willing to "understand" why Smith got to retire with benefits?

 

Why aren't Scouts screaming that he SHOULD have been fired? - look at the damage this man did to BSA. Why are people so willing to voluntarily "explain" away such things instead of DEMANDING an explanation from BSA?

 

 

Its bad enought that abuse cases continue to occur in BSA but c'mon......the HEAD of "Youth protection" in BSA distributing Kiddie porn.......Like it or NOT this HURT BSA and NOT taking the STRONGEST possible action - FIRING Smith - hurt BSA even more.

 

Please tell a parent why they SHOULD feel their son (or daughter) is safe in Scouting with all this in the news.

 

[Eamonn 61]

"....that update requires a revisit"

Who said it did?

I really think that the majority of the forum members are fed up with these "Drag the BSA into the dirt" postings and threads that jkhny continues to post.

While he is of course welcome and can post away!! Maybe it's time we just didn't take the bait?

Good-bye jkhny. - I for one will no longer be responding to your negativity.

Eamonn.

 

 

 

[FScouter 24]

"Maybe it's time we just didn't take the bait?

Good-bye jkhny. - I for one will no longer be responding to your negativity."

 

Me too.

[Bob White 20]

Ok Jenhky just because I am dying to hear your response.

 

What was the BSA supposed to fire Smith for? Remember at the time he retired the BSA was not informed that he had committed a crime and in fact no charges had been filed against him.

 

Tell us, if you were the employer, and as far as you know your employee had not committed a crime, WHAT exactly would have have fired him for?

 

 

[Hunt 11]

jkhny, I have another challenge for you. In your next post, answer Bob's question and only Bob's question, in as few sentences as you can. Don't add any extraneous issues, don't put any words in all caps, and try not to rant. If you can do that, I'll read some more of you posts. If you can't, you're off my list, too.

[NJCubScouter 1389]

Screaming Irony? Wasn't he the fourth Native American from the left in an episode of "F-Troop"? As Chief Wild Eagle's deputy chief in charge of sarcastic remarks?

[evmori 11]

Actually, I think he was Wild Eagle's half brother on his sisters side!

 

"Why's everybody say your so dumb?"

[OldGreyEagle 5]

I think Wrangler Jane (melody patterson) may have helped my consolidation on heterosexuality. Dobbs, the bugler showed up a lot, most notably as Michael J Fox's dad in Teen Wolf.

 

Corporal Agarn and Sgt O'Rourke really had something going with the Heckawhi (sp?) indians.

 

Edward Everett Horton played a great Mediciane man as Roar Chicken

 

200 bonus points for Edward Everett Horton's role in another "hit" 60's show

 

[FScouter 24]

The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle.

[evmori 11]

He narrated Fractured Fairy Tales!

[evmori 11]

Dreaded Dupe Post (DDP)!(This message has been edited by evmori)

[johndaigler 10]

Ironic that "screaming irony" has devolved to "screaming chicken"?

 

You decide!

 

jd

[evmori 11]

Is a screaming chicken the same as a fricasseeing chicken?