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Rooster, I was quoting Scoutldr to refute him/her with the excerpt you took from my post. You would do well to read an entire post before quoting it. While I do not agree with every detail of your post, we are of the same opinion on the subject of abortion.

"I consider decisions between a physician and a patient to be their business and their responsibility alone. Not mine nor anyone else's." Does this extend to hit contracts? "I consider decisions between a hitman and a customer to be their business and their responsibility alone. Not mine nor anyone else's." It is not the child's doctor. The "patient" is not the one being killed. It is the child's business and responsibility alone. Not yours and not the abortion industry's. I find your logic intriguing, however. Let's extend it for a while. On capital punishment: "I con

"No, I am not "for" abortion. But neither am I "for" bringing an unwanted, unloved child into the world, to a "parent" who cannot care for it either financially or emotionally." Abortion is not allowing an unloved child to enter the world. It is removing an unloved child from the world. That is a huge difference. Encouraging the notion that coitus is a recreational activity or a psychological need may be considered bringing unloved and unwanted children into the world. Killing the socially, circumstantially, mentally, emotionally, economically, racially, or physically "defective" i

If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly. An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered. I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean. The thing I hate about an argument is that it always interrupts a discussion. To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice. When you break the big laws, you do not get freedom; you do not even get anarchy. You get the small

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Long underwear Aristotelian logic Gerber folding knives

The Gnostics borrowed from Christianity in that they attempted to explain Christ in terms of their spiritual teachings and copied many of the sacramental practices of early Christianity. For instance, they began referring to their demi-urge (the evil 'halfgod' who made matter) as YHWH of the Old Testament and Christ as a spiritual being and their pure god or his representative. It is not uncommon for an older religion to "copy" from a newer one. Hinduism's use of Buddha and explanation of his philosophy is another example. It was the termonology and outward signs that the Gnostics copied,

I have found that there is some ambigous middle ground between folding and rolling. What looks best to me personally can be described as a light fold or a loose roll. I usually fold the neckerchief about three times but don't crease the edges like a fold generally implies. I find the neckerchief then takes on the classic Norman Rockwell look that I prefer. I then tie the neckerchief rather than use a slide. I don't consider rolled neckerchiefs tacky, however, and am glad that there are different options and techniques for neckerchief wear. I usually wear the neckerchief under the collar

Just curious, I know that the Chief Scout Executive and the National Council are the "head" of the BSA organization, which includes Venturing, Cub Scouting, Sea Scouts, etc. I was wondering if there is a body analogous to the Venturing directors who run Boy Scouting specific programs. What I mean is, does the CSE and National Council oversee the Boy Scouting details directly, and the other "branches" indirectly (with specific directors) or is there another body? I know it is confusing because the organization as a whole is the BSA and the "default" uniform is the tan one used by troops. So

If national happens to change the policy on honorary OA members, then Austin may have a chance for next year.

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Very good points, dsteele. The parents should be aware of uniform policies, but it shouldn't necessarily be them who instigate and inforce the scout's compliance. I don't know how this situation should be different in Cub Scouting and/or crossover situations as opposed to new boy scouts joining the organization "cold."

"When I think of a Scout, I see a boy (actually, I hope to see a young man), who refuses to be enticed or bullied into striking out. I see a young man who is respectful towards adults even when one of those adults may be acting like a horses rear end." This is very true, but we shouldn't forget that the same thing should be expected of an adult. When any scout becomes an adult, he should be respectful towards adults even when one of them is acting like a horse's rear end. The respect that youths should show adults doesn't prevent them from asking a troublesome adult from leaving a meeti

hahahaha, packsaddle, I HAVE met Bob White. But I suppose that's another issue.. I found it interesting that after a series of posts describing incompetent eagles, Machiavellian parents, negligent parents, and even other posts about scouter parents.. ("It's both but the adult leadership allowed it to happen but that's probably because the adult leadership is usually the parents. I don't know if all parent really want "what's best for their kids." They often claim and even think that want what's best for their kids but often what they want is what will make them look good...How many

I guess I am saying that parental support given by scouter parents can tend to be more helpful (in a pragmatic sense) to advancement than parental support given by non-scouter parents. This boils down to the statement that scouters are more proficent at scouting than non-scouters. I apologize if I made it sound like a deliberate scheme. I realize that I did describe cases where scouter parents did give unproportionate assistance to their own, but I in no way meant that this is the norm or even common. I just used it as an example of, well, nepotism that I have personally witnessed. Most s

OldGreyEagle, I'm surprised at the statement you objected to. It was, in my opinion, the least controversial of the statements I made. I threw it in because I thought people would consider my opposing sentiments too unrealistic. I didn't mean that parent scouters give conscious special treatment or noticably different treatment to scouts who are their own children. When emphasising that scouters should try to give every scout an equal experience, I meant that parents have a special bond with their children and cannot help but see them differently and think about them more often. I am

"is in the very simple measurement of did you earn it or didn't you and no one knows for sure except the wearer." I was asking if it was earned. You responded with the implication that since it is earned, one who is considering wearing it is of suspect personal integrity. Some camps give berets or other headwear to staffers. Yet these are not exclusive to the program or earned in any real since. I wouldn't refrain from wearing a black beret because Camp Sakima in St. Louis gives them to staffers. Nor would I refrain from wearing a FDNY cap if given to me because I was not a mem

"Adrianvs, I can't speak for the others but I have never seen a parent who is not a parent first, regardless." Granted. I agree with you. And I repeat: "it is unlikely that parent scouters will ever be as concerned or involved with other's advancement, but they should try to narrow the gap, especially with those youth who do not have scouter parents." I don't mean to assert that parents can ever really neutralize their parental affectations or should. I just wanted to emphasize that there may be boys who could use the often scouter-specific assistance as to "this is signed here

What I want doesn't have to do with parent scouters being harder on their sons or being mediocrely interested. I think that scouters should be AS interested or at least as involved in the projects of scouts who are not their own progeny. When they wear the uniform, they must be scouters first and parents second. As I said, it is unlikely that parent scouters will ever be as concerned or involved with other's advancement, but they should try to narrow the gap, especially with those youth who do not have scouter parents.

Thanks for taking the time to see what I was referring to, Twocubdad. I agree with you that the bull is more like an event patch than a Philmont cap or coffee mug "carabined" to one's belt. I honestly wanted to know if the bull was a stylistic embellishment associated with Philmont (like the jacket itself), or had a more specific meaning. I understand now and plan to remove it as I don't want to misrepresent anything. I ask because these things aren't always clear. When I was a youth, I thought that red bolo ties were for Order of the Arrow members alone. I was mistaken. When I was a yo

I am joking about the elk, of course.

I was wondering exactly how set or official the Philmont felt bull has representative meaning. I know that the bull represents having been to the ranch and there are some traditionettes as to how the bull is sewn on the jacket. You see, I have aquired a wool jacket from another scouter and it has the the felt bull on it. I intend to wear the jacket, but don't want to wear any insignia which would indicate a false accomplishment or experience. I wouldn't wear the Philmont arrowhead patch or some award or training patch that I hadn't earned, but I have worn a Leave No Trace patch from a jambo

"The BOR does not make the Eagle...never has...never will...IF THE ADULTTROOP LEADERS ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO AND DOING IT WELL. It is the troop leadership that knows the boy well enough to know that he is, or is not qualified for and deserving of the Eagle." We always talk about parents pushing a scout through the advancement program or more accurately dragging him along it, but we have to understand the position of the scoutmasters who sign off and advance these youth. In most cases I have seen, the scoutmaster receives the paperwork from troop Committee Chairman (Mom), si

Lord, preserve us!! If ASM hadn't given a source for his story, I would not have believed that such a thing could have happened in this country!!! That people could be arrested for engaging in paintball is a humanitarian horror!! I mean arrested!! For an activity as obviously benign as simulated modern combat!!! I know for a fact that such actions would be permitted in any other nation, especially the enlightened Islamic ones. In fact, I group of friends and I have enjoyed camo-clad paintball games in Iran for the last three summers without any harrassment by law enforcement authorities

While several modern groups may call themselves gnostic, the term generally refers to an ancient sect in competition with early Christianity. The word gnostic comes from "gnosis" meaning "knowledge." Gnostics believed that knowledgs of things spiritual was given directly to specific indiviuals. The gnostics had set beliefs about the nature of things. They should not be confused with the modern agnostics, whose name suggests we have "no knowedge" of things spiritual and divine. The gnostics believed that the God of the Old Testament who created the physical world and was evil is different