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ROFL. I love text book answers.

 

Most of the late boomers I grew up with had to buy their own cars, pay for their own college, and pay their own way after high school or college. Most of the jobs and college slots were taken up by the boomers. And yet, somehow, my generation was able to engage, survive and proper. Mommy and daddy didn't do that for us. And we had the oil crisis, Carter's hyper inflation and the Cold War economy to live through. We rolled up our sleeves and worked.

 

That's not happening with Millenials.

Most Millennials, are too young to have kids, especially those of Cub Scouting age, much less in Boy Scouts.  

 

I imagine changing the admission standards to be more inclusive could be seen as BSA trying to appeal to this future generation of parents.

Odd. Because most of the places I've looked say demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years. So that would make them plenty old enough to not only have kids, but to have kids of Scouting age.

 

The problem is you have to move out of one's parent's basement to do that.

The OP chose to put the topic in Issues & Politics.  That makes it fair game.

 

Besides, it really is a partisan political issue.  It isn't the conservatives who have been forcing all these membership changes on us.  Liberals own it.

 

One need look no further than the second post to see the first refence to "changes". I too took the "changes" to be every change that's been made, both program and policy. You're not the only person who feels that way. Don't be bullied off.

Interestingly enough, the younger generation (millennials, especially the ones you would call "liberals") are far more environmentally active and into hiking, camping and outdoor activities compared to most of the Gen X or Late Boomers I know, Liberal or Conservative.

 

But agree that this topic is regarding Traditional Scouting and not political ideology.

And yet they are far less likely to volunteer their time for their kids, as evidenced by the plethora of older adults running Packs and troops.

Is anyone worried about unsecured alcohol in a troop where all pocket knives, axes and saws are secured when their kids are around?

 

What happened to teaching responsibility?

It mentions not using last names here:

http://scoutingwire.org/marketing-and-membership-hub/social-media/social-media-guidelines/

 

San Houston Council spells it out:

http://www.samhoustonbsa.org/Data/Sites/1/media/resources/district-operations/shac-social-media-guidelines.pdf

 

The Barrier To Abuse also implies maintaining such privacy:

http://www.scouting.org/BSAYouthProtection/Policies_and_Training/Barriers_To_Abuse_Within_Scouting.aspx

If you ever have a picture taken for Boys' Life they DON'T want you in Class A uniform. I doubt you'd get any troopin the US wearing their troop tshirt and a neckerchief. Bandanna maybe, but scout neckerchief? No way.

Nice link, CF. But that's about camping merit badge, not O/A.

 

I tried looking for "outdoor" here http://www.oa-bsa.org/pages/content/membership-and-induction, not on that page. Anybody have a better source?

 

I have no problems reading only self-raised shelter or open sky into O/A's membership requirements, if someone can provide a reference to experts addressing that specifically.

Well if those nights wouldn't qualify for the camping mb why would the qualify as camping for OA? Isn't OA the national honor society for campers?

 

None of the software for managing scouts counts indoor nights. Cabins and lock ins are not camping.

I think we're in what South Park calls a "Vindaloop".

How many Den meetings were held at house with unsecured chemicals? Booze? Other dangerous things? Did everyone check every time?

My guys tried using the neckerchiefs bsa is providing these days for Triangle bandages. Too small. Way too small.

 

The ones you get at Cabelas are much bigger. But they're worn as bandanas not neckerchiefs.

Or...we use this as an opportunity to teach the boys about the dangers of alcohol.

Like all the all-male Venture Crews that have been sued out of existence?  It's a private organization.  Until the US Supreme Court revisits the issue (which is unlikely), it's a done deal. 

 

Now, I can see a unit that went co-ed getting sued if they kick out all the girls at recharter to go back to all-male.  That's a vulnerability.  Once a unit goes co-ed, they are going to have to stay co-ed.  If they have an issue keeping co-ed leadership or whatever else, I think the CO would have to fold the unit and start up a new one from scratch as all-male.

 

I think you miss his point.

 

It's not about equality or equity. It's about smashing down things perceived as privilege.

 

If you think anything is a "done deal" you haven't been paying attention the last 4 years.

We're pretty close to the bottom of this slope now.

In which book did you find such a rule?

 

The same place Reuters quoted maybe?

 

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15F022

In New Jersey that's actually not how it works. Self-identifying gender is even allowed on a NJ drivers license. 

 

So in this case, in this state, yes indeed the gender is what Joe and his parents say it is.

 

I'd like to be a 6'4" Swedish ski instructor. Just because I put it on a form doesn't make it true...or honest.

Didn't Elmer Fudd start the fad in 1937?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e2/1d/8d/e21d8d9c4855c795cd83559c8dc392fe.jpg

But if your not supposed to be a member of that private club, how can you sue for discrimination when at the time the club's rules disallowed your membership.

The Dork Factor always applies. Whether one hears it or not is another question altogether.

If post B&G, if he's not done with tiger or bobcat I don't get how he's allowed to have a car in that Den.

 

The right thing to do would be to let him race but not allow him to stand for any of the design awards.

 

Typical, parents make things worse than they need to be.

Look for sales on scoutstuff.org. Can usually find pants on sale but you really need to try them on at the store to know their silly sizing.

It's a piece of optional cloth. It's not a badge of honor or an indicator of excellence. Not more than a WB necker means well trained leader.

 

The scout's measure is within and his badge are his actions.

 

Even BSA agrees that the uniform means more than the necker, or they'd have made it mandatory and not optional.

So does ANY tshirt or hat with the BSA logo on it.

 

If you wore just the necker in the US you'd be scoffed at wildly. It's not like people would automatically know you're a scout. But if you were a large First Class tshirt I'd bet they'd know.

Folks, it's OPTIONAL! Done.

 

Like a hat one does not have to wear one. You may like it but it doesn't make anyone more or less a scout if it's worn.

MBCs should fill out ever area they are required to. The fields are there for a reason. Fill them out, avoid problems.