Trevorum

miki - please try again - I'd like to hear what you have to say. I too have been sorely subject to the insidious TPS (truncated post syndrome). Try from a different computer, clean your cache and check your cookies. And save your post to another text file before posting.

When the candidate hears back from National and is approved, may he wear the Eagle patch on his uniform, or must he wait for the COH?

Thanks for the link to that thread. Interesting reading. As a newbie here, I'll have to learn to search for answers before I post a question that has already been addressed!

WWBPD - "then what?" ...

People study history to learn from it and avoid the mistakes of the past.

nldscout - thanks! I am glad to be reassured that it's not true.

A friend recently told me that in our council, until the 1960s, Black Scouts were in a separate district. This statement floored me. I had never thought about it but I suppose BSA must have mirrored the institutionalized racism of the country.

Even more startling, this fellow told me that until even more recently, Blacks could not serve as Patrol Leader or SPL of LDS sponsored units. I have more trouble fathoming this statement. Does anyone know anything about the truth of these issues? If true, this is an important aspect of BSA history that should be examined and understood, not swept under the rug.

They don't of course. But many homosexuals nonetheless father children the same way we do - by marrying women. This is what "the closet" was all about. Even more so, gay women have historically married and had children regardless of their natural orientation because they were not given any choice in the matter.

WWBPD -

Homosexuals DO reproduce and far more often than one would expect. Their gametes are just as viable as ours.

Moreover, your prediction of a decline in numbers is not borne out by any study of world history or comparative anthropology. Homosexuals have been a constant presence in human societies for as long as we have records, oral history, or mythology. It is the acceptance or persecution of this b

OGE - I agree 100% that it is the unique combination of these methods that makes for Scouting. Scouting needs ALL of the methods. However, my point was that the methods should not be rigidly implemented, without loosing sight of the big picture, ie, the aims. If we need to modify (not eliminate) a method to better reach a scout or group of scouts, I'm all for it.

aargh! why are my posts being truncated? help!

I've seen many circumstances when the preferred methods have needed to be adjusted. For example, camping is a *great* part of the program but it doesn't appeal to ALL boys (for reasons I can't fathom). If we want to instill the aims in these boys, that method can be modified.

Similarly for advancement. It is a great method and works well for most boys. However, some guys s

OK - I'm a newbie here. Can someone please tell me why my posts are being truncated?

In August our PLC sets the camping calendar for the following year. They choose the summer camps and hi adventure, which the SMs then fit into the summer schedule (reservations, etc.).

For the last several years we've gone to the local council camp, an out-of-council camp, and a high adventure trek. The local camp is excellent, but the 13+ crowd get tired of it after 2 or

In August our PLC sets the camping calendar for the following year. They choose the summer camps and hi adventure, which the SMs then fit into the summer schedule (reservations, etc.).

For the last several years we've gone to the local council camp, an out-of-council camp, and a high adventure trek. The local camp is excellent, but the 13+ crowd get tired of it after 2 or

BSA never objected to any of the award's requirements. They objected to a few sentences in the guidebook which were critical of BSA's membership policies.

Since recognition of the award was rescinded in 1998, UU youth have been enjoined from wearing the award or it's knot on their uniform. Importantly, UU youth are still welcomed in scouting and should still be encouraged to *earn* the award.

We should remember that uniforming is a METHOD and not an AIM of scouting. The aims are Building Character, Fostering Citizenship, and Promoting Personal Fitness. The methods should be adjusted to fit the circumstances. An entire unit in full Class A looks spiffy, but that's not the point.

Thank you, Old Grey Eagle and Evmori, for sharing your personal stories. You are both very proud of your sons and rightly so. Making Eagle is not easy for a track star, much less a kid with a disability.

I have learned that one of the Webelos who will be crossing over to join our troop next February has Downs. Where can I go to learn how to integrate this fellow into the troop? I know there mu

Buffalo Trails Scout Reservation (BTSR) in the Davis Mountains of west Texas is a 5-star camp in my book. An exceptional staff, a terrific program, and absolutely gorgeous country makes this one of the most memorable scout camps our troop has experienced. In addition to regular advancement oriented programs, BTSR offers two high adventure programs - a Cavalcade (5 day horseback trek) and Mountain Man (western theme frontier survival). Highly recommended by youth and adults alike.

In 1969, 100% of our Jamboree contingent - adults and youth alike - wore the red jackets. I still wear mine. I'm glad my parents bought it then, 'cause I sure couldn't afford one now.

lems on their uniform

BobWhite is correct. The scout may earn the religious award, but he just can't wear its symbol (the knot) on his uniform. However, if the Scout were in my troop, I would *strongly* encourage him to pursue the award. In addition to being a personal growth experience (that's the whole point of course), there may come a time in the very near future when UU scouts will again be able to proudly wear their religious emb

OGE, I sure wouldn't want to be tubing on the Guadalupe today! Flood stage. But our troop goes tubing every spring - it's one of the most popular camouts of the year.

This minute was well recieved at our troop meeting. You are welcome to share it with your troop also.

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BRAVERY

Weve talked before about the Scout Law and how its a pretty darn good guide to live your life by. Some of those 12 points seem easier than others. Everyone here has a pretty good understanding of what it means to be Trustworthy. But other points of the law arent so clear sometimes. Take Bravery. Some of you have said to me that bravery is what soldiers do in battle. Well, thats true, but bravery is a lot more than that. We can all show bravery in our everyday lives. Sometimes bravery is just doing what you need to do, without complaining, even if you dont want to, and even if its hard.

I want you to think about the thing in your life that is giving you the most difficulty right now. Maybe its a class in school. Maybe its your parents. Maybe its a friend. How are you handling it? Are you complaining or feeling sorry for yourself? Now think about the time in your entire life that has been the biggest difficulty for you. How did you handle that?

While you are thinking, I want to tell you a story. This is a true story that happened just last month. Its about a high school student who lives right here in our community. Maybe some of you even know her her name is Katie. Katie is smart; pretty; has lots of friends; shes Drum Major of her high school band; she gets good grades. Earlier this year everything was going pretty good for Katie. Then the doctor gave her some bad news. She had cancer. I imagine that was a pretty big shock for a teenager. How would you have handled that? Well, Katie went through the chemotherapy and radiation treatments but eventually the Doctors told her that it wasnt working, that the only way she would survive at all was if they amputated her leg. The doctors wanted to cut off her leg! Shed never again be able to run or play soccer or ride a bike the same way. Her entire life would be different. Well, Katie knew what she had to do and, together with her parents, she made an appointment for the surgery. She actually picked a day when the doctors were going to cut off her leg. She saw that day come closer and closer on her calendar. And the night before her surgery, the night before she was going to loose her leg forever - for the rest of her life, do you know what she was doing? What would you be doing? Katie was on the field with her high school band in a marching competition. Her band was counting on her and she wasnt going to let them down. Thats bravery.

Think about it.

(Sorry to join this thread late, but I just got here...)

I sent my app a month ago at the request of someone with National. Was I also supposed to send a deposit/fee with the app or does that come later?

Well, I wasn't born in Texas but I don't hold that against my parents!