AAAAANNNNND    we have learned the lesson :   

https://www.onlineplaygrounds.co.uk/anti-wrap-swing-chains-swc1-1655.html

11 hours ago, MattR said:

Unless you have a solid bar for the "ropes" of the swing it's impossible to do a loop on a swingset. But, I suppose not many students took physics back in your day, either.

Well, yeah,   KE still equals 1/2MV squared.

Pushing the swing (empty), it was possible to  wrap the chain supports around the bar.  With a kid in the seat, pumping, never saw that, but that doesn't mean we didn't try !

https://aplusphysics.com/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/929-can-you-really-swing-over-the-bar/

How did we ever get to be adults?

Jungle gyms in elementary school , 8 feet high, made of steel galvanized plumbing pipe, held together with bare u-bolts , sharp corners on those bolts.

Kickball, softball,  MAYBE a catcher's mask. MAYBE a glove.  We had a Cub Scout softball league.... I played left field and first base.  

Asphalt playgrounds, potholes and all.  Slide into THAT, dodgeball on a set circle ring, red bouncy ball ("no, Richard, NOT the soccer ball....").

Asphalt under the swing set .  JUMP out of the swing, which had ahard, wood seat.  Extra momentum when you tried to swing it all the way around the bar....   Not very easily possible with the present hard rubber seats. 

Do you see any 2 story elementary schools anymore? 

Waaaay too big. Are these good folks all "volunteer", paid expenses (as many governing boards are), or are any  (if not all) paid a stipend or  a "retainer", etc.? 

I imagine some ( I recognize names) are named "Board Member"  as sort of a reward/recognition for service, donation, etc.? 

Saturday is a good day to feast and express thanks...

For food, for raiment, for life, for opportunity, for friendship and fellowship....

We thank thee, oh Lord.  

Doesn't include Dentistry ?  Isn't that a Health Profession?   Why separate after this re-alignment (orthodontia) ? 

Well, I'm glad they didn't forget the ketchup....

I'm with Jameso76 in much of this. 

Nomenclature/definition....  Vespers to me means a set of prayers, a worship service.   Are we talking about an outdoor chapel of some design?  Does it exist already and needs  renovating,  embellishment?   Or is this totally new construction? 

The two Scouts need to have a sit down.  Perhaps with the church leadership first, then with their respective Scout Leaders.   I would hate to think there is some adult dramatics involved (shudder).   I would encourage the Scouts and church leadership find enough "project " for the each of them.  Perhaps (!) the Scouts can develope a joint project acceptable to the church AND the Scout District Committee?  Wow, what a concept. 

..... up to a point

At IOLS, I always mention the The Three Words No Scoutmaster Wants To Hear:

"" HEY !  WATCH THIS ! ""

1 hour ago, mashmaster said:

Wood Badge attitude leaves a very bad taste in my mouth about it. 

Well there ya go.   Despite the National Curriculum, All  Scouting Is Local.   The WB is locally produced and staffed.  It is meant to be a "Management" course and a reinforcement of the "Scout Led"  (adult mentor-management)  idea.   The local folks can give it the bad taste, unfortunately. 

We hope for the "AHA !"  moment , not the "OH NO!"  or "HO HUM" moment..... 

One of the courses I attended/staffed had a wonderful older Scouter in attendance.  He had an interesting story. He traveled the country attending various WB courses. He said to me he had attended 12 so far, and enjoyed the different types (attitudes?) he encountered.  I did not ask him (maybe I should have) if he passed on his observations to proper folks involved. 

See you on the trail..... 

Congrats... Hoot Hoot.   

Wood Badge is as much for the adult as for the Scouts they will help... I am sure the folks/Scouts that benefited from your ticket(s)  will know to "pass it on".

Beading...   It is appropriate to celebrate your success, and it is altogether appropriate that YOU decide how it should be done.  I know folks that have said, don't need the hoo hah, just send me the regalia.  And it is sent.    

Not a Troop /Pack/Crew person?   Then your beading should be where you feel you belong. Roundtable,  Camporee, where ever.  My friend received his at the District Award dinner.  He and thirteen others all had their beads and woggles awarded (I did my friend's). A "mass beading", took all of about 6 minutes, song and all.  I had mine at my home Troop CoH. It snowed alot and unfortunately most of my Patrol could not attend, but my WB SM and Patrol Guide managed.  Punch and cookies (obligatory) afterward.  

Wear the beads?   Not necessary.  "By their fruits ye shall  know  them."   Folks don't so much care what you wear around your neck, only how you help our Scouts along the way. 

Back to Gilwell....

""

""Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking.""

H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

Oh,  Kosnoff is a character, all right....

He wants to be known for what he does when he THINKS everyone is watching....

With the turn of the years, autumn again brings thoughts of campfires, wood smoke memories, s'mores, burnt hotdogs, songs and gazing into the embers.....

 Campfire safety being of utmost importance (I hope and pray you never find yourself saying, "I thought I put it out"), I find myself remembering when I used to heat my modest cabin with wood.  I thought I might record  some ideas in that vein,  (please bear in mind , this is past history.....) therefore:

How to Heat with Wood for Free!

            It is easy to heat your home for free with wood!  I have done it for many years , and I have been asked by many to detail the economics of it. Here, then, is my accounting of heating with wood over the last few years!

            Wood is available for free from many sources. Neighbors may need a tree cut down. Road crews leave wood by the road for picking up. Untended lots need thinning.

One just needs a little equipment.

Build wood rack from scrap lumber :  FREE!

Install catalytic equipped wood stove, double wall stove pipe: $5,432.

Purchase chainsaw, case, chain oil,  hardhat, safety goggles, Kevlar chaps & vest, heavy gloves, wedges, maul for splitting, :  (“on special”!)  $844.95.

Two gallon gas can and 2 gallons of gas: $15.48.

Buy old second hand pickup (to haul wood ! ) from cousin: $850.

Rebuild engine, new clutch, new tires, pass state inspection, tags, title, insurance:  $3,547.85.

Pay fine for cutting wood without a permit on park land: $350.

Replace rear window in pickup (threw log thru it): $207.

Sharpen saw chain after hitting rock in tree crotch:  $18.

Buy 2 extra saw chains:  $66.05.

Repair neighbor’s roof edge after maple fell the wrong way:  $427.

Repair chainsaw after using regular gas in it (needs 2 stroke mix):  $98.47.

Buy two gallons gas and pint of 2 stroke oil:  $14.48.

Doctor visit after wood rack falls on foot:  $20. Copay.

Crutch rental:  FREE (local service club)

Clean rug and smoke damage when wife forgets to open damper:  $380.28.

Lawyer visit, recommendation of marriage counseling:  $350.

            As you can see, it is easy to heat your house with wood for FREE!  Of course , not everyone is as adept at wood cutting as some, so your experience will no doubt be different.  Good Luck !

It is all about personal responsibility and past history.

Third hand story:   Talking to a Scouter friend:  He was a Scoutmaster for a time, then dropped back to being Committee Chair as health and age interfered.  One time during a Troop meeting, a new fellow came in, and he was directed to my friend, now Com Chair.  The new man said he was an Eagle, and had just moved into the area and wanted to get back into Scouting. Friend said great, do you have a kid to join the Troop? man said no, he was single, but wanted to give back, as he was given in his Scouting days.  Friend said great, here's an adult application, and medical form. We'd be glad to have you help.  Man said why do I have to fill this out,  all I want to do is , like, teach knots and stuff. Friend said everyone fills this out that wants to be a Scout Leader.  man says this is not necessary, a Scout is Trustworthy , right?  Friend said right.  And Obedient.  Here's the form to fill out, we'd be glad to welcome you into the Troop Committee, but everyone fills this out and gets "checked out and in".   Man said Okay. Let me think about it, and left and never came back..... 

Again, all Scouting is local.   

""Blind""   Scouting?    

https://americanorchestras.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Rethinking-Blind-Auditions.pdf

Right. Now I know why it never moved after I signed it.....

So now how do I remove the black sharpie from my compooter screen LRC?

On 10/17/2021 at 12:06 AM, mrjohns2 said:

Thus the "bottom line" is much more complicated. That is more the "top line". 

Very true....   But it is a  "beginning".    It took some YEARS to get the BSA to correct the Friends contact info, but it was accomplished. 

On 10/12/2021 at 11:15 PM, 5thGenTexan said:

Thanks everyone.  I passed it along to the parent/leader.  Its good info for all of us.

Here is the "bottom line"  ::

https://www.scouting.org/awards/religious-awards/chart/

""" When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
"Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya"
At seven PM, a main hatchway caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya""""""""""""

12 hours ago, LOI47_Sigma said:

i dont know, all I know is that its to protect me in battle

Aha, a "talisman".   A horse shoe, rabbits foot, St. Christopher's ,  Grandmom's handkerchief,  Charlemagne's reliquiy,  "He chose.... poorly"..... 

I do not seek to disparage your  desire for "protection in battle", not in the least. If there is a protection inherent in the object, certainly that is a reason to claim it. The proof will be in the pudding, yes? Perhaps it would be better not to test that "protection"?

 Perhaps it would be better to find a way to prevent or avoid battle?   

B-P's final desire was that Scouting be a way to World Brother/sisterhood.  It is all over his writing thru the later years of his life. 

Please see:    https://www.scout.org/sites/default/files/library_files/Education In Love.pdf 

Scouting can do that.  

See you on the trail. 

Was it a GOOD adventure? 

Please note the Penn requirement includes any adult , anywhere,  (see time defined), school volunteer, school bus driver, sunday school,  parish priest, Scout leader from Nevada staying at a Gettysburg campground  for more than (?) 2 days, etc. 

Already been there, done that:  Cost is YOURS, or your agency....

State of Pennsylvania Youth Protection Requirements :

Get a Clearance

The Child Protective Services Law (CPSL) requires certain individuals to obtain clearances in order to be employed, be a resource parent (foster or adoptive), or be a volunteer with children. The purpose for requiring clearances is to provide employers and those selecting volunteers with information to use as a part of a larger decision-making process when determining whether to hire someone as an employee or select them as a volunteer. 

Clearances are required for an employee or unpaid volunteer at a minimum of every 60 months from the date of the oldest clearance. Clearances may be required more frequently based on licensure or employer requirements.  

Agencies and organizations must ensure that clearances are obtained in accordance with the CPSL. The required clearances may include:

https://www.dhs.pa.gov/KeepKidsSafe/Clearances/Pages/default.aspx

16 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

April 6, 2021:

https://nyrej.com/suffolk-county-council-boy-scouts-of-america-to-sell-council-headquarters-in-medford

 

worked for me.....

https://nyrej.com/suffolk-county-council-boy-scouts-of-america-to-sell-council-headquarters-in-medford

Cardboard and duck tape.  Works for me.   I do Woods Tools at IOLS.   Most of my knife and axe sheaths are "home made".    Cardboard, duck tape,  string to tie around the axe heads.  I tried making axe sheaths with velcro closures (fancy!) but the glue fell off.  Duck Tape and cordage.