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Our Pack orders about 200 at a time of both the red and the tan from our Shop. They look a whole lot better, are easier to sew on, and actually come out cheaper than 3 digits from the Scout Shop. They wind up being a little under $3 each for 3 digit numbers. I think two digit numbers are under $2. Single digit cost at the shop here is $1.19

Our Pack charges $85 for new Scouts and $75 for returning Scouts. This covers them throght the end of the program year (the reason for the $10 for new Scouts is that they are being chartered for 17 months). Dues covers registration, Boys Life, insurance, awards (nearly $40 per year per boy), basic supplies for dens, Den Leader fees, and some overhead capital costs. B&G, camping, derby kits are extra. We do a popcorn fundraiser where the boys get to keep 25% to pay for dues, camping etc. Also we have a scholarship fund available for families that have a hard time paying dues.

Our Pack usually does something like this, although this year scheduling didn't allow. What we usually do is have Our raingutter regatta on Friday night, followed by a camp-in and movie, then do a service project on Saturday morning. I kind of like the idea of doing other Cub Scout requirement type activities. Just remember that when naming and advertising it, with a "lock-in" most people usually think of it as dropping a child off and then picking them up. Make sure that your parents understand that this is a "camp-in" and that someone is expected to stay with the Cub and help them in the

Good suggestions. Our pack is still discussing rules changes for our third race in 2009. I'm kind of torn between keeping the designs basic so all the boys are more or less competative, or allowing a variation of designs.

ScoutNut is correct. BALOO is only required for Pack overnights.

On the Tan uniform, they may wear the Bobcat badge in the traditional location right below the button on the left pocket. If it is worn on the uniform however, they have to use the diamond shaped Webelos badge placed directly below it. If the large oval Webelos badge is worn, the Bobcat is not.

You have a good point Lisa. When you need a trip permit varies greatly from Council to Council. Ours unfortunately has decided that they want one ANY time the Pack or a Den meets off-site. I slightly misspoke also. It is only required on the trip permit for someone on the trip to have taken the training, not one of the leaders. Although the training is very basic, it has some good information. Our Pack has decided to require all leaders who may lead outdoor hiking or camping trips to have this training. Nissan, In our Council they now conduct what is refered to as WeBALOO training

As an additional note. Beginning in January, the online Weather Hazard training is required for anyone conducting a camping trip. More specifically, at least one person listed on the Trip Permit must have the training.

This was our second year running one. It works well as a year opening event because it is still warm and the boats can be built in a relatively short period of time. Year one went well, but because of our large pack size traditional double elimination brackets became a nightmare. This year we let them race until they had lost twice (then they could race others that had lost on another track so that they could keep having fun). This went better, but we ran into one other hiccup. In year two, parents started taking this serious! We had all maner of specially built boats. I would recommend

I don't think it's bad...isn't Scouting all about Fire and sharp intruments?

Stosh, I am with you there. I personally prefer not to cut up a flag. It seems somehow disrespectful to me. That is a personal viewpoint though, and there is nothing against it.

We run a large pack (165 boys this year) with about 85%+ retention, one of the highest in our council. The bigest thing is to have a FUN and active program. We picked up alot of boys this year from other packs. We don't go after them, but they come to us because someone tells them about our program. Running good activities and fun Pack meetings will help out more than anything. If the boys do nothing but sit and listen then they will drop out. As Baden Powel said..."Scouting is a GAME with a purpose" (the emphasise is mine).

There really is no reason that a Tiger can't learn the Bobcat in a month, with the exception of a learning disability. Remember that the Adult Partner is supposed to be working with them on this. It is not a complicated concept. In fact, most of ours have the salute, sign, and motto done by the end of our roundup. Then need to get this done because they still have a full program year of requirements. It also gives them some immediate recognition and depending on the Pack a fun cerimony.

Our Pack pays for all awards, including belt loops, however they are covered by the $80 annual dues. We do limit belt loops to only one of each and no more than 6 per month.

I would avoid anything like gunpowder or even non-dairy creamer. You can get something called Funky Flames at Wal-Mart. It's a little bag of powder that changes the flames into colors, kinda subtle though. My thoughts would be metal shavings of some kind. Certain carbon shavings will look like sparks in the flames. Copper shavings will burn with color.

Just came back from Cub-O-Ree and discovered a new "fact" about flag retirements. According to the lady in charge of it there a flag has to be flown for 30 minutes on the day of retirement to retire it. So...they opted not to do one since none of the donated ones had been flown that day...even though they had told everyone that there would be one. I wonder what the next "fact" will be?

Just finnished up weekend one! Bobwhite!

At the risk of sounding a bit preachy, I believe that the Beavah quoted some scripture out of the Bible about throwing stones. If we return to the same source, let's remember what Paul had to say about such things. Within the Church, you are to point out and help your brother see the error of his ways (however you should also be aware of your own shortcomings). Paul stated that it was the duty of members of the Church to judge their own. And not to judge those outside the church. This same example can be applied to this topic. As members of BSA, it is our duty to point out violations

I am shocked at the cavalier attitudes here. This is quite simple. The rules were broken. Period. The rules are there for a reason. No so much to keep these two individuals apart, but to keep possible implications and interpretations, such as have been here. It doesn't matter if they are sleeping together or not, the idea of the possibility is there. That is why these rules exist. To prevent possible misinterpretation. To those of you that say it's the 21st century...they probably do it outside camp anyway. Who are you to decide what my son should or shouldn't see? He is in Scou

I don't think I would worry unless you see this two years in a row. There is some natural fluxuation. This year the school that our Pack draws from raised tuition significantly. This resulted in a huge decrease in their first grade registrations, and a huge decrease in new first graders to the Pack. Luckily we also draw from a large church and got a significant number there. Although we still got enough to create 4 Tiger Dens, our Tiger registration is down almost 50% from last year. What was strange was that we got a significant number of older boys. We had to create a new Wolf Den, we

Glad that you weathered through ok! I'm been through several and can't say I enjoyed any of them. Ike blew past Kentucky here on Sunday with 70mph sustained and 80+ gusts. 400,000+ without power. We just got power back last night, but there are still 200,000 in the Louisville area without power. I'm glad that it was mostly wind, tree and power here. Prayers to all!

I like the idea of baloon propulsion. I'd recommend fishing line and not smooth string though.

I think Buffalo Skipper has a point. It may be made in a vivid and harsh way, but it is true. As a parent it is your job and resposibility to make sure that little Johny is getting what he needs to grow up into a responsible and Godly young man. To this end it is your job to look at and decide if little Johny's activities are of benefit to him and the family. For example, little Johny may wish he could play football with his buddy, but he doesn't hate Scouts. If the decision were leftup to Johny, he'll go for football. It is up to the parent to look at the situation and see if hmmm...onc

Cub Scout camping has to be at Council approved campsites. That is national policy. That said, if the council approved the trip permit, then I would assume that it is approved?

Well, that might be true. And I'm sure they love camping there. But that is still a fair drive. One of the first things that you need to ask when planning events is 1) are they accessable to most of the target group (The Pack) and 2) are you asking them to cross a hazard that they normally would not and is that unreasonable (may depend on season). Also don't forget the 72 hour rule. It sounds like that on some of these the arrival is Friday night and the departure is Monday morning. That is about 84 hours. Not having class 2 & 3 medical forms on these boys and their parents is a