LongHaul

emb021, I don't dispute what you say, though I can't find my insignia guide right now(@#$%^) I wonder why every boy and leader was issued two region patches which said "2005 National Scout Jamboree" and under that in gold it says "central region" These were worn on the left sleeve under the flag. Was the central region the only ones who did this? LongHaul I know that when I attended the 64 and 69 Jamborees we all recieved region slides and region 7 patches for our left sleeves.

I am not advocating not punishing him but when two people do the same thing the consequences should be the same for both. The law was informed and chose not to act, why, could it have been that there was not enough evidence, was the admission of quilt valid in the eyes of the law? We really know very little about this, my position is that if Rikki's statement that the second boy, the one who brought the drugs and provided the drugs was not sent an expulsion letter then the boy in question should not have been expelled. LongHaul

He didn't plead guilty to it he plead guilty to a lesser charge in hope that it would go away which is exactly what would have happened if it was you or I. If I run my hand over my face and wink and you think it's a solicitation am I guilty of that crime solicitation? I think this cop jumped the gun. He probably gets away with that because people he arrests don't have the resources to make a case about it. Merlyn, so it's against the law to move your hand under the partition between stalls in the mens room? I wonder if the law that states this also included the womens room. The man

Most of you know that I have no love for the Republican Party Agenda and hence the Republican Congresspersons. What bothers me even more is injustice. In reading an account of the problems Senator Larry Craig is having right now I came upon a statement that just stopped me cold. "Craig was arrested on June 11 in the Minneapolis airport men's room after an undercover officer observed conduct that he said was "often used by persons communicating a desire to engage in sexual conduct." Are the Minneapolis Police aware of the existence of what we in Chicago call "singles bars"? I wonder what would

Any chance it could be shipped? Some people like to wine taste, I like to sample local brews. LongHaul Brain engaged after I hit submit and I googled Moose Drool.(DUH) Got the web site and ordered some.(This message has been edited by LongHaul)

First let me make it clear that I do not condone illegal activity, especially on Council Property. Slipping of to town makes all the difference in that it is off scout property. Committing an illegal act on scout p[roperty is adding insult to injury. Packsaddle, Moose Drool? Is this a local brand or a pet name?

nldscout, As I read Rikki12's posts I see several things >>Unlike the camp staff that was expected to provide training, supervision, and interaction and was lacking in all areas, the boy did take responsibility for his actions.<< This leads me to believe that the boy in question was NOT on staff but was a camper. This relates to him being in a positions of responsibility that taking drugs would have compromised. Later posts make it unclear as to whether the boy was a staff member. (Incidents of adult staff threatening youth staff with dismissal and/or replacement) Then I see >&g

First I would like to say that as a person that has suffered with ADD all his life and has two sons that also suffer from this condition IMO it is a contributing factor in decision making BUT when it is offered as an excuse for bad decision making it is just that an excuse. If this boys decision making powers are such that ADD is his defense then he should under NO circumstances be allowed to be in a position of responsibility because he admittedly is not responsible. As to the expulsion, I believe it was unwarranted in this case and unjustified in light of the fact that the punishment was

Rikki12, How about sharing the whole story with us? Your posts leave me to believe this happened at a Council Camp. Where any other scouts involved? Were any other scouts parents required to pick up their son? Where any other scouts involved also sent expulsion letters? are you seriously saying that any boy who is not in scouting sits upon the garbage heap of humanity? How about the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. LongHaul

Lugnuts Dad brings up a good point. I doubt that National would allow the uniform to be associated with a political campaign but I could be wrong. My guess is that the Sopranos got permission (another head scratcher) and that because the Hilary spot was a "spoof" they don't need permission, much the same with needing permission to copy song lyrics. LongHaul

Thank you packsaddle, you saved me from a long reply, Ill accept that jambo is new and has not read many of my previous posts. Thanks also to ASM 915 for pointing out that as an SM one should be prepared for questions concerning the faith of every scout in his troop. In my capacity of Religious Award Instructor I do indeed teach doctrine to SOME of my scouts. As this is an ongoing project I make use of idle time when and where it presents itself as I do with all advancement. In my capacity of SM, I must be able to discuss the Religious Award requirements of all faiths represented in my troo

What I'm getting is a long list of "http://www/xvgao..." in the history. So you can't go back to your last screen. Anybody with more computer savvy than I know if this is dangerous? LongHaul (This message has been edited by a staff member.)

>>My opinion: " Scout leaders should stay out of politics and religion" it's scouting, and not a debating society ! jambo

As for the "zero" thing the Mayans used the concept before the Indians but the Mayan concept never made it out of Mexico where as as fgoodwin states the Indian concept was used by other peoples. LongHaul

emb021, That is why I said IMO. The insignia guide specifically states that if the neckerchief is not worn OVER the collar the collar should be unbuttoned. I just think wearing it under the collar with an open collar looks the same as wearing a long hand tie under the collar with the collar unbuttoned, sloppy. LongHaul

>>When the president takes his oath of office, he is swearing on the good book<< Which would be fine for Ed but what significance would it have for Merlyn were he even willing to swear on that book in the first place? In Gone With the Wind, Rhett Butler is asked to swear upon his honor as a gentleman. As he does not consider himself to be a gentleman he agrees to swear but makes the point of saying On my honor as a Gentleman?. The impression is that were he asked to swear upon his honor as a man he would not have done so. Is it not your honor as a God fearing person that gives rele

What does "On my honor" mean if it's not a oath equal to "I solemly swear"? By the way I'm told all the scouts with the exception of some US scouts wear the neckerchief on top of the colar. LongHaul

Emb021 talks about the use of neckerchiefs at the World Jamboree. The scouts I have talked to that attended tell me that in other countries the neckerchief is used similarly to our temporary patch. They have neckerchiefs for events instead of patches; patches are not very popular in fact. Scouts were wearing as many as three neckerchiefs at a time Im told. Neckerchiefs for special events would be worn for about three months after attending and then would be replaced by a different one. My boys tell me that some scouts would change neckerchiefs during the day. One of the Jamboree issue ne

I respect that there needs to be a separation of the branches of government and safe guards. What comes to mind however is the ever popular "If you have nothing to hide why are you worried?" that congress repeatedly offers up as justification for continued attacks on personal liberties. Voting records should be public domain not protected. What are these Congress people hiding and from whom? They don't want the "politics" of government to be made public because if everyone knew the specifics of all the wheeling and dealing they may not like it. If you ran a business and your employees wanted p

Just found out that the Federal courts have thrown out all the evidence in the case I was referring to, you know the one where they found all the cash stuffed in the freezer. (The evidence was thrown out and the case dismissed the cash?) Anyway the Justice Dept was investigating this guy for taking bribes. They went in and found the cash and took documents from his office among which were documents pertaining to the congressman's voting record. The courts have ruled it an illegal search because the warrant listed the documents pertaining to voting and that type of information is protected unde

No, Ea I don't believe God has ever changed his/her mind. IMO that's a good thing because if he/she ever does we will never know we just won't be here anymore. LongHaul

Dan, I find the books totally out of line. Yes I've seen one. Unless you are going to get all the way into the subject telling primary grade children what is and is not morally correct behavior is not the responsibility of any school district. I understand the concept of diversity and hope that this world embraces it more than it does now but not with a "See Dick Run" approach. Should we include books and class time for separatists and white or black power or doesn't "diversity" include everyone that has a different attitude. How about those that side with the fundamentalist group d

OA is not part of the Cub Scout program. When I was part of the elections team I remember that an Adult could not be nominated if no youth had been elected. The adult application was like a rider on the Troop election form. Things could have changed. LongHaul

Several times now I seen reference to a not wanting a leader to discuss homosexuality with a cub scout. Is "Age appropriate" just a term we use in Chicago? Can someone tell me just what degree of... I can't even think of how to word this! Why would you find it necessary to discuss sexual anything with a cub scout? Sexual abuse yes but only to the degree that you need to decide who to report it to. I'm associated with a Pack in a VERY liberal area. I've been told by most of the parents that they are opposed to the gay ban and a few actually asked if the Pack could openly announce to the boys th

Yes Gonzo Coke syrup, it's flammable. If you ever get a chance to look at one of the boxes the stuff comes in you will see a red diamond with a number 3 in the bottom. Get into a wreck with 40,000 lbs. of that stuff and a little diesel and you can cook a lot of marshmallows. LongHaul