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Red wool jackets?
https://www.scoutshop.org/washable-wool-jac-shirt-612783.htmlagain, if it doesn’t fit, get your full measurements and send them to National supply.
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My two cents
someone wrote the Councils should stay out of this.
The plaintiff’s lawyers won’t let that happen. They’re just not on the laser aiming dot ... yet.
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Bemidji Woolen Mills still has a wool forest green jacket. That’d be my choice.
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On 1/26/2021 at 10:35 AM, scoutldr said:
My dad was a retired Navy Chief. I can hear him saying, "don't call me Sir...I work for a living." (or worse)
I’ve heard that from Army and Marine NCOs, too...
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So this Scouter will leave the inside of prison in a box. He’s 76, and he got 40 years.
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BSA will no longer publish the Requirements book. It’s gone totally online.
https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/
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Just checked, this continues to be the advancement policy book on the national website.
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Pack,
I went looking for Karen’s nickname here at Scouter, had just found it, and was ready to post the same thing.
My heart hurts right now. Gwd-Scouter, Karen Buchanan, was a great Scouter and better friend. Our friendship started here, and then moved to Facebook. One minute you could find us debating ACA at a deep level, the next minute we were sharing some triumph or other of our own kids development as low brass players. I will surely miss her.
ok, Keith... @SR540Beaver, your turn.
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The saddest thing, to me, is LDS Church nationally licensed the program and then through some means paid for youth memberships. There were specific guides on how to do things for LDS Scouters.
LDS walked away from that, AND I presume walked away from the liability coverage granted to a chartered partner. You guys are a big church body, but you’re going to take some fiscal hits in the next decade.
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13 hours ago, Eagledad said:
Like the cooking MB, I don’t believe camping should be a required MB for what a Scout should be an expert at doing anyway by age 14. A Eagle Scout should be as much of an expert in the woods as a first class scout. I feel the rank badges should require the minimum number of Scout skills to qualify the scout to be a confident outdoorsman. The Eagle should be more skilled in public speaking, group management and leadership.
i like that first-aid qualification idea. We did that as a troop.
Barry
Unfortunately, if Camping and Swimming MB are optional for Eagle, then Camping and Swimming will be optional in our ever more STEM oriented scouting program. That’s how I see units and parents these days.
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14 hours ago, RememberSchiff said:
Would I have First Aid, Swimming, Personal Fitness, Cooking merit badges? Nope.
I’m going to specifically disagree on Cooking. Because of it, I could cook a steak, make pasta, build a salad, make corn on the cob , and a few other meals.
suddenly, in 1999, I found my wife legally desiring to be my ex. We had a 9 year old at the time. Suddenly, I had to feed him, even as I made sure he got his homework done. Suffice it to say, my skills served me well.
cooking is an important man skill. I’m glad National returned it to the required list!
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Locked due to National Council policy change
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Discussion at Advancement Forum
Proposed Eagle Scout Required Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Merit Badge Delayed
- January 7, 2021
The introduction of the proposed Diversity, Equity and Inclusion merit badge is being delayed to allow for the careful consideration and evaluation of feedback received from a wide variety of commenters on the draft requirements. Until further notice, all Scouts working on the Eagle Scout rank should continue to use current rank requirements. Once the Eagle-required Diversity, Equity and Inclusion merit badge is introduced, Scouts in the process of earning the rank of Eagle Scout will be given adequate time to earn it.
Updates regarding the merit badge will be shared with councils directly and via Scoutingwire. Specific questions are welcome via email at Officeof.ChiefDiversityOfficer@scouting.org.
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Temporarily locked, National policy change
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This just in
Proposed Eagle Scout Required Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Merit Badge Delayed
- January 7, 2021
The introduction of the proposed Diversity, Equity and Inclusion merit badge is being delayed to allow for the careful consideration and evaluation of feedback received from a wide variety of commenters on the draft requirements. Until further notice, all Scouts working on the Eagle Scout rank should continue to use current rank requirements. Once the Eagle-required Diversity, Equity and Inclusion merit badge is introduced, Scouts in the process of earning the rank of Eagle Scout will be given adequate time to earn it.
Updates regarding the merit badge will be shared with councils directly and via Scoutingwire. Specific questions are welcome via email at Officeof.ChiefDiversityOfficer@scouting.org.
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1 hour ago, mashmaster said:
For Scouts that are mid-project, they continue with the old workbook. Is that correct?
Check with your Council Advancement Chair/Professional Adviser. I understood the message as mandatory for all, effective immediately.
if you get a policy answer, post it, so I can change the OP.
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On 1/2/2021 at 7:07 PM, Sentinel947 said:
There are Wood Badge graduates who fail to realize as participants they are living a youth role, and so is most of the staff.
Sorry, I disagree. I rejected the call to be a youth again. I earned the right to be an adult, with sweat, tears, and blood. Innocent as I was at 14? I think not. That’s why I was so ticked off at “Win All You Can.” I’d seen friends go to very bad places because of that mentality in the real world. When a 20 year old tried to tell us to be kids again, we told him to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. Clearly, he had not had his “oh, shit” moment in life yet.
Operate on the basis we are adults, please.
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There is a new Eagle Leadership Service Project Workbook
According to the National Council, it’s required for use effective immediately
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My personal thought is the SPL and SM need to work together in private a couple times a month. SM spouse and one of SPLs parents should be there for the adult safety issues, but the relationship between these two is what drives the entire PLC process.
in addition, the PLC at Wood Badge needs to be dumped. It has NO decision making ability, It’s a tasking meeting. A real PLC makes decisions.
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If you quote an article, please cut to the relevant 1-3 paragraphs making your point.
If you don’t, we moderators will.
Thank you.
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lets stop using loaded language, shall we?
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Welcome to the forums.
As long as you have the evidence, yes, report it.
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25 minutes ago, Jameson76 said:
Good Lord, that would be the end for many people. Just want we need, YPT zealots descending on a meeting to "evaluate" and offer their sage advice. All I can think of is the political officers spread throughout the Soviet Union to keep an eye on stuff and make sure everyone drank the appropriate amount of party Kool Aid
That would in fact be the end of Scouting.
Also, the family Scouting concept (for Scouts older than 11 years old or middle school) will be the final nail in the coffin
If the chartered partnership model changes to more of a council owned model, then those folks won’t be offering advice ... it’ll be directive in nature.
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Vax Whalloped
in Open Discussion - Program
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I had Pfizer number 1 Wednesday. By Wednesday night I knew it was there.
Thursday, most of the day, a dull roar.
Friday morning, life is good.