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heartofbrightstar

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  1. A hasty entry means a quick apology. I couldn't get the file posted earlier to work the first time, so I thought it was broken! Sorry about that! I can add that if you want to sing it as a round, the 2nd group comes in at "flashing like silver".
  2. PLEASE don't sing it to "Itsy Bitsy Spider"! Horrors! This is a favorite song of Naish Staffers, we always sing it at the end of campfires during summer camp. I can't sing, but here is a midi file, so you can at least hear the tune. http://songs-with-music.freeservers.com/paddle.html
  3. Lisabob, where are you at? Here in the greater Kansas City area, we offer a weekend COPE/climbing instructor training course once or twice a year, depending on demand. Unfortunately, this year, it was in May. Jayhawk council, next door in Kansas, sometimes offers one also. The Saint Louis council used to have one, but they go in with us also. Todd Whitely and John Cookingham have been the facilitators, both for the instructor course here and camp school. If you have a camp school trained director, they can train instructors (I THINK-CONSIDER THIS A DISCLAIMER). Spanish Peaks council also used
  4. Thank you! Also to Dancing Fox who emailed me separately with a PDF file. I lurk more than I post, but I knew I could depend on Scouters! I copied the directions and have them in my planner for tomorrow. We have 28 participants and we are pumped! Thanks again for all the help.
  5. Nope-that's why I hollered. I haven't done this part of the syllabus in a while and the person who did it last time is out of town. I have an extra puzzle and pieces. I remember that it didn't quite play like "snakes and ladders". I was just hoping for a quick reply.
  6. I am teaching this on Saturday and I don't have the instructions for the game. Does anyone here have them? Thanks!
  7. I like using the boxes that reams of paper come in, they have a seperate lid. I use piano wire for the shelves and just wind it in and out of holes cut in the sides of the box.I don't make more than 3 shelves. That has created enough venting. For a window, cut most of the lid out, cut open a Reynolds turkey bag and spread it over the hole, using duct tape,tape the edges down, inside and out. I think you are better off putting the charcoal on an elevated surface, about 6 inches high. My husband is a machinist and made my platform out of steel. Before that, I just put a disposable pie tin on ro
  8. Boy, did you guys get it wrong! No, it is not boy led, but boy participation is very strong. Anyone who is active in Mic-O-Say knows that. Nominations are not only by members, however, it isn't public knowledge how nominations are done, nor will I share it with you, because of the number of boys I know visit this site. The Tribal Council is basically a committee of adults that works with the boys, councils youth, and take care of the "back side". You know, like OA has adults at the national level. Again, none of the boys that are in it feel cheated by the adult involvement. I dont know where t
  9. This happened in my council and at one of our camps. I was at Roundtable this week, and there are a lot of questions about what happened. We are all puzzled about the family's statements as well. There was quite a while between the first incident and when the boy talked to the chaplain, and he apparently didn't act all that upset. I do know that the kid accused of the initial contact was sent home the next day, and the other kid was counseled by his troop leaders and other trained staff at camp and choose to stay. He wasn't "sent" back to his tent. All the steps were followed. It was reported
  10. I hope I am not too late getting an answer for your thesis. For girls, I wish they had the same program too, because from what I hear from girls I know, Girl Scouts doesn't offer the same program. I know they could have it, it just doesn't happen. We have some Venture crews that are co-ed and very successful. One of them was featured in Boy's Life. I would like to think that girls wouldn't hang back, but reseach isn't giving me much hope in that area. So maybe having separate programs in the younger years is better. Not that an good leader can be either male or female, for either girls or boys
  11. In answer to Borninthe60s, OA doesn't have any ceremonies at Bartle, but we have had boy chiefs in OA sit up with the chiefs during ceremonies. I assume that like all smaller organizations, we are worried about being absorbed. I hate to say it, but so far, the "cheerful service" that OA is supposed to be about is absent in my experience. Like a lot of troops, we went to Naish for Tap Out, and inducted a considerable number. We sent a boy to round table to be the OA rep from the troop, and not once have we ever heard about any service. There are work days at Naish, just like at Bartle, maybe
  12. Yep, only in Missouri. So many tribesmen have moved to other places, and used the program to start their own version, but most have used a different name. I saw a group with the same name on the east coast, but it is not the same.Here is a pretty cool web site with some pictures from a troop that goes to Bartle: http://www.pleasantheights.org/ScoutCamp2001.htm or my favorite site, cos its done by one of the youth staff:http://www.geocities.com/aglmus/staff.html. You can also find the Hub for the ring. Again, I go to Bartle, and there is also Camp Geiger in Saint Joseph mo.
  13. Greetings from H. Roe Bartle! I really thought someone who's been around longer would get to this before now, but here goes. Yes, we keep the ceremonies and traditions a secret, but with up to 1200 people attending at a time, it's not a "closed" secret ceremony. We allow any concerned parent to come, but boys aren't allowed in til they are members. You won't find anything about us in official literature because we are only in two locations; Bartle in Osceola Mo, and Geiger in Saint Joseph. National knows all about us. When the national camping committee comes to evaluate us, they are
  14. Sorry I got in on this a little late, but I wanted to give Weblosmom some support and perspective from an active female Scouter. I have been active in Scouting for 16 years, 9 of those as a Boy Scout leader. I have encountered the same attitude, and they don't have a leg to stand on. They are hoping that you will just go away. I had the same situation and it got to a senior scout exec, and he came to visit the troop I just left, after the Scoutmaster took me to one side and told me "confidentially"that the boys didn't want me to go to summer camp with them. He did it on his own. I found out la
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