Gold Winger

Why not just trip every breaker but the fridge? You could tie or chain the handles together if needed. I notice that you didn't say anything about firearms. What if the zombies rise?

Bob, Kudu said "except for health and safety" but you really need to read the old handbooks or maybe you like making things up. From my 1934 handbook Small, mild burns may be treated with any good burn ointment . . . but 2nd and third degree burnds . . . Greasy burn ointments should not be used. Compare that to the medical advice at http://www.pedisurg.com/PtEduc/Minor_Burn_Treatment.htm Hmmmmm . . .

Hey! He said, "rubbing of parts" and "whore." Why didn't he get moderated?

"If what you are saying is correct, then Jesus was either a liar, totally mad, or both." He may well have been. People call Oral Roberts a liar and they say the same about Joseph Smith. All we have are the testimonies of some of Jesus' followers, who may well be trying to protect the memory of their leader, a Greek (we all know what they say about Greeks), and a tent maker who suffered from heat stroke.

Thanks to the moderator, my example makes no sense at all. **** was an admonition to get movin and *** was an angry diatribe.

If I take my 600 bucks and buy a new washer, I've boosted Sears daily numbers but I've also contributed to the paycheck of the Sears salesman (straight commission in appliances) as well as the paychecks of the guys who made the steel, made the washer, shipped the washer, etc.. What we need to do is make sure that we spend that $600 on products made in the USA like Hondas, water heaters, and washing machines so that the money stays here.(This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

Can you really say that you are getting "value" for you money when you spend $15 for a box of microwave popcorn and you can get the same stuff (Pop Weaver) at WalMart for $5? Not really but everyone buys because they know that the money is a donation.(This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

"Equating belief to Santa Clause is not respectful and I think may stoop to being unkind and discourteous." Why? I've had personal proof that Santa Claus exists. On the other hand, all we have for the rest are two thousand year old stories.

I'd like to know how vulgar and how profane and how much. If he says, "****" I'm not going to worry much about it. If he says, "***" We would need to have a discussion. (This message has been edited by a staff member.)

Bob, you really don't pay attention, do you? " if you pay attention to kids is that they treat most injuries as badges of honor" Not really. I work with a young fellow who showed up with his arm in a cast. I asked what happened and he tried to convince me that it happened in a bar fight. He's 17 so that isn't likely. Mostly to irritate him, I kept pressing and it turned out that he tripped at a track meet and broke his wrist. No a badge of honor. When I was 16, I slipped at school and split my chin open requiring about 20 stitches. Not a badge of honor. The same would be true of young, proud black belt whose old man managed to inflict damage. Not a badge of honor. BTW, asking questions is the very definition of investigating. (This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

Interesting thought. He claims that he was inspired and that guarantees the accuracy of what he wrote. You could drive a truck through the holes in that argument.

In unit fundraising, the people giving money are supposed to be receiving something of value for their money. In a silent auction, people are deciding the value of what they are buying and no one is giving money without getting anything so it should be okay. Also, according my DE (three DEs ago), normal fundraising rules don't apply if you are only soliciting from the people involved in the pack.In other words, you could have a cake raffle without running afoul of the rules if you don't sell tickets to the public. Of course, others may disagree but that's what we were told.

Someone thinks that you can benefit from the advanced training.

" Probably easier to get permission to go for a week than a 14 day trip with a troop - not quite the same, but at least I'm getting to Philmont." Permission? Yah-crack! (that's the sound of a whip) You don't need no stinking permission. You say, "Woman! I'm going to Philmont!" Of course, you might wind up living in the basement but at least you made your point clear. :-)(This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

Many of us are nosy enough to want to know a little more. We would ask the kid, "Hey that's a nasty bruise you got there John, how did you get it?" And yet trainin' is pretty specific, eh? It's not our job to investigate, and we should not be playin' investigator. Just report. Someone just followin' the trainin' is going to report on the nasty bruise. There's the big problem. Johnny shows up with a BIG visible bruise. Call the authorities? Asking how it happened would be "investigating." Okay, let's go one step further. "Hey, Johnny! What happened to you?" "Oh, nothing much. I fell down." Fell down? "Well, my dad knocked me down." Knocked you down. "Actually, we were fighting and he threw me and then punched me a few times." CALL THE AUTHORITIES!!! The authorities investigate and discover that both Johnny and his dad are black belts in Brazillian JuJitsu and pound the snot out of each other on a regular basis. However, privacy regulations prevent them from telling you anything. So you're baffled when the father isn't arrested. A month later, Johnny shows up again with a bruise and you ask, "Your father do that?" Johnny says yep so another call is placed. Now Johnny's father has a "file" and they start tracking these "incidents" and some civil servant loon who couldn't find a real job decides that something has to be done. So Johnny's father gets hauled off in handcuffs, has to spend Johnny's college fund for a lawyer and even though acquitted winds up losing his job.

They do that for the same reason that, if he hadn't been a Boy Scout, they would have said, "Varsity Athlete Kills Family" or "Honor Student Kills Family" or "Gang Member Kills Family." They do that to humanize the accused and the victims. He wasn't just a teen, he was a good student, athlete and a Boy Scout. The father wasn't just another guy, he was a lawyer, church leader, and a Scoutmaster.

Why not? Because, like most paperwork, they are a pain in the neck. Have to be turned in at least a week in advance, that messes with short notice trips. All cars must be listed. What if my regular car breaks down? What if extra boys decide to go? Sorry, no more cars on the list. My old council onnly required tour permits if you were going over 50 miles from your regular meeting place. We could go some pretty cool places with 50 miles and still be in the council. New council supposedly requires tour permits for all activities. Go down the block to the fire station and you need a tour permit. The question came up, why? The answer was the old "So we know where eveyone is in case something goes wrong." Followed by the standard, "There's no one to answer the phone." To which the DE replied, "I always carry copies of all current tour permits." Let's look at a scenario which supports BSA's reasoning. Something goes wrong and the troop needs to be contacted. Troop 994 has gone on a hike of Mount Reallihi. Johnny Scout's mom is watching the news and hears that a freak typhoon is headed for Mount Reallihi. She knows that the BSA knows right where her son is so she grabs the phone book, looks up the local council's phone number and calls. And gets a recording. That's why the DE carries the tour permits. Hmmmm . . . does Johnny's mom know the DE? Or the DE's cell phone number? In the real world, Johnny's mom will call the SM's wife and tell her what she had heard. The wife may say, "Hey, glad you called. I just heard from Tom and the boys are coming home early." If the wife isn't available, she'll call another adult from the troop. Two things may happen at this point. They'll call the SM on his cell phone. If he answers they'll tell him what's on the news. The other possibility is that they can't get through by cell and a few parents chat and one bright soul says, "let's call the state police." Here's the big question. Does anyone know of a REAL situation in the last 20 years in which a tour permit allowed a troop to be contacted in an emergency?

"As I originally stated - I was just trying to get Gold Winger's Goad" No, you may have been trying to "get my GOAT" In any case, I know that the Jews who wrote the bible were inspired to do so by Znorfran, the Lord of Znerflot.

Pappy, despite all of your elaborate copying and pasting, the original point still stands. The Catholics did not write the bible, Jews did that.

Wow! Smack down on the Beaver! My favorite pot roast is to take a big chunk of beef, throw it into the crock pot with a can of Campbell's Golden Mushroom Soup, a packet of Lipton Onion Soup, a few cut up potatoes, a couple chopped up carrots, a few peppercorns, a bay leaf and let it cook on low until is ready to fall apart. Strike that. My favorite pot roast is similar to my favorite beer, it is the one in front of me at the time.

"The Yamahauler had more torque, better handling, better breaking and a top end that allowed me to hit 140 mph. Also, I didn't need after market products to up the comfort level for long distance" Second generation copy of a first generation classic. :-) In any case, 120 or 140 doesn't matter since I never exceed the posted speed limit. My '81 has dosen't need anything for long distances since it came with a factory fairing, trunk, saddlebags, and a big seat for my big butt (can I say "butt" or will I hear from a moderator?). I will say that your Ventures are nice looking bikes but what happened to them? The Ventures and Voyagers disappeared from the market and left touring to Honda.

"Yep, I don't think the Roman emperor Constantine (who authorized Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire and set the ball rolling) would have called himself Catholic." Since we Orthodox trace our church back to Constantine, we hold that we are the one true church. Unfortunately, Orthodox dogma does not mention Znerflot :-( so even it is lacking completness.

Don't know why you can't use wine in your pot roast or beer in your bratwurst. G2SS prohibits the use of alcholic beverages. A beverage is to be drunk not used as an igredient in dinner.

"And I swear my best Scout's Honor on a stack of Roman Catholic Bibles (Who am I kidding- it was the Catholic's who wrote the Bible in the first place!)" What hubris! Moses wasn't a Catholic. Neither was David. I'm pretty sure that Matt, Mark, Luke and John were all Jews.

Riding a Norton wasn't cool but riding a Vespa would have been. Strange country you're from. :-)